unboiled.info
  • Communities
  • Create Post
  • heart
    Support Lemmy
  • search
    Search
  • Login
  • Sign Up
PugJesus@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 4 months ago

Well, we have the fucking camps opening. Luckily, plenty of terminally online leftists are ready to tell us how noble and moral not voting was!

lemmy.world

message-square
916
link
fedilink
  • cross-posted to:
  • PLT@sh.itjust.works
52

Well, we have the fucking camps opening. Luckily, plenty of terminally online leftists are ready to tell us how noble and moral not voting was!

lemmy.world

PugJesus@lemmy.world to Political Memes@lemmy.worldEnglish · 4 months ago
message-square
916
link
fedilink
  • cross-posted to:
  • PLT@sh.itjust.works
  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    2
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    4 months ago

    If the Democrat Party continues the way it has, they will look exactly like the current Republican party in the next decade.

    This is exactly the same blinkered view that was peddled in 2000, and in 2010, by useful idiots for the Republican Party. Do you not know how far the Dems have fucking come in the past 30 years, both socially and economically?

    Maybe listening to people who think worsening the genocide in Gaza is Left Praxis™ because it hurts Shitlibs like AOC and Bernie aren’t a good resource for American politics?

    • multifariace@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      4 months ago

      The only thing I can think of that improved socially is federal recognition of same sex marriage, but that was actually set in motion by state level judicial rulings. I can’t think of any economic improvements.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        https://ontheissues.org/Bill_Clinton.htm

        https://ontheissues.org/Kamala_Harris.htm

        Feel free to compare and contrast.

      • Natanael@infosec.pub
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        4 months ago

        You mean like supporting unions and forgiving student debt? Or do you not count that because republicans sabotaged it?

        • multifariace@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          Just one of the things they say they’ll do for popularity but their ‘big’ donors don’t support, so they compromise or fail heartlessly. Sabotage would require opposition. The two parties have been playing the extortion game far too long.

        • piefood@feddit.online
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          4 months ago

          I think you mean fighting unions, and failing to deliver on the less-than-bare-minimum that he set out to forgive on student debt. It wasn’t sabatoged, it was because he was too busy boming innocent people, backing a genocide, and writing checks to his rich friends to get things done for the voters.

          • Natanael@infosec.pub
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            4 months ago

            Which unions did he fight? The ones who thanked him for helping them get their demands through?

            Are you ignorant or a republican troll?

            • piefood@feddit.online
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              1
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              4 months ago

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_United_States_railroad_labor_dispute

              The one that made the strike illegal, and forced the contract through because the members didn’t want it.

              • dudleyflippendoodle@lemmy.zip
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                edit-2
                4 months ago

                Yep, this was the moment I became completely disillusioned at the Democratic Party. Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden showed his true colors here.

                They’re all just corporate fuckwads. The DNC’s reaction to the 2024 loss and “Project 2029” prove they would rather lose than ever run a popular candidate that doesn’t fall in line with their own agenda.

                I’m sick of voting for the compromise candidate that merely slows down our descent into fascism. If we’re heading that way anyway, might as well vote for the candidate whose values closest align to our own, democrat or otherwise and be satisfied we stuck to our convictions.

                If the Democrats want my vote ever again, they have a lot of work to do to earn it back, and will need to run a candidate I actually want to vote for. I genuinely hope they get there, but I’m not going to be shamed into fruitlessly giving my vote to them again if they don’t.

                • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  Rail.

                • piefood@feddit.online
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  Totally. I want to like the Democrats, but their leadership keeps shooting themselves in the foot, and blaming the voters. I find that I tend to side with most of their voters, but their leadership is pretty openly antagonstic to their voting-base.

                  I gave up on the party long ago, but I am pessimistically hopeful that we’ll see them turn around someday. In the meantime, I’d rather put my efforts into other parties that actually fight for what I want.

                • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOP
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  2
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  Yep, this was the moment I became completely disillusioned at the Democratic Party. Joe “nothing will fundamentally change” Biden showed his true colors here.

                  … when he got the strikers nearly all of their demands through a hostile Congress???

                  • dudleyflippendoodle@lemmy.zip
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    2
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    4 months ago

                    How are 10% less raise than they asked for, 1 additional day off instead of 15, and the inability to say no or continue striking to be “nearly all” of their demands???

              • Natanael@infosec.pub
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                4 months ago

                https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/rail-unions-hail-bidens-two-person-crew-mandate/

                https://www.npr.org/2023/02/10/1155763336/freight-rail-workers-union-paid-sick-leave-bernie-sanders-csx

                Maybe check what actually happened as a result

                • piefood@feddit.online
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  arrow-down
                  1
                  ·
                  4 months ago

                  I have. Maybe you should read up on it:

                  https://www.vice.com/en/article/more-than-500-labor-historians-condemn-bidens-intervention-in-freight-rail-dispute/

                  https://jacobin.com/2022/12/railworkers-basic-control-sick-days-leave-pay-raise-strike-biden-contract

                  https://www.npr.org/2022/12/02/1140265413/rail-workers-biden-unions-freight-railroads-averted-strike

                  The only people who were happy with it were the unions leaders, who had been pushing against the wishies of the members the entire time.

                  • Natanael@infosec.pub
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    1
                    ·
                    4 months ago

                    How curious that my article is more recent than all of yours and include developments giving them more of what they asked for

              • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
                link
                fedilink
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                4 months ago

                Rail.

Political Memes@lemmy.world

politicalmemes@lemmy.world

Subscribe from Remote Instance

Create a post
You are not logged in. However you can subscribe from another Fediverse account, for example Lemmy or Mastodon. To do this, paste the following into the search field of your instance: !politicalmemes@lemmy.world

Welcome to politcal memes!

These are our rules:

Be civil

Jokes are okay, but don’t intentionally harass or disturb any member of our community. Sexism, racism and bigotry are not allowed. Good faith argumentation only. No posts discouraging people to vote or shaming people for voting.

No misinformation

Don’t post any intentional misinformation. When asked by mods, provide sources for any claims you make.

Posts should be memes

Random pictures do not qualify as memes. Relevance to politics is required.

No bots, spam or self-promotion

Follow instance rules, ask for your bot to be allowed on this community.

No AI generated content.

Content posted must not be created by AI with the intent to mimic the style of existing images

Visibility: Public
globe

This community can be federated to other instances and be posted/commented in by their users.

  • 1 user / day
  • 1.93K users / week
  • 3.27K users / month
  • 10.7K users / 6 months
  • 1 local subscriber
  • 9.79K subscribers
  • 3.53K Posts
  • 34.8K Comments
  • Modlog
  • mods:
  • Rooki@lemmy.world
  • AutoMod - Beta@lemmy.world
  • Tenthrow@lemmy.world
  • JonsJava@lemmy.world
  • Lasherz@lemmy.world
  • FauxPseudo @lemmy.world
  • UI: unknown version
  • BE: 0.19.13
  • Modlog
  • Instances
  • Docs
  • Code
  • join-lemmy.org