Widely circulated video of Pretti’s killing by federal agents undercut earlier assertions of him being a gunman
White House officials sought to rapidly distance Donald Trump and top officials from their initial portrayals of the man fatally shot by federal officials in Minnesota as a gunman, as they faced a deepening backlash after video footage was widely seen to undercut their assertions.
The move came as Trump advisers appeared to realize that the caustic portrayals of the man, Alex Pretti, who was reportedly licensed to carry a gun, had turned the killing into an even larger political liability for the president.
Over the weekend, senior administration officials including Stephen Miller, the deputy chief of staff, called the victim “a domestic terrorist who tried to assassinate law enforcement”, while Kristi Noem, the homeland security secretary, accused him of perpetrating “the definition of domestic terrorism”.
With Renee Good you had to watch several videos to have a full picture and conclude it was murder. Many people didn’t bother to put effort that would challenge their opinion so the lies worked on many.
With Alex Pretti this was obvious in every video. His “crime” was trying to shield a woman that the gestapo was attacking.
These incidents also show how important is to record and document what ice is doing.
Without videos the lie that he pulled a gun on agents and started shooting would be three accepted one, because “why would DOJ lie?”
Yeah, no. No take-backsies on this one.
The tightrope being walked by Leavitt comes as administration officials privately said they see the shooting as an unintentional error by agents who got spooked by a possible unintentional discharge of Pretti’s gun after it was taken from him.
Mother fuckers we ALL saw the videos. Pretti’s handgun was removed from him and carried across the street by an ICE agent, a full 10 seconds before the first shot was fired. Shit the fuck up with your lies. He did NOT have his gun on him at the time he was shot, there is NO way his weapon accidentally discharged and therefore caused the agents to react by shooting him
FUCK you leavitt
I mean I’m with you but don’t say a full 10 seconds. That’s easily contradicted by the video. You’re right on all the other points, but exaggerating the time like that really harms the point you are making.
I would say it was more like 3 seconds than 10, but that doesn’t change what you said.
Also stabilized video from the person who run behind and recorded it (so glad he did it, I think they purposefully blocked view from the street but didn’t expect someone record from the back) shows that the murderer was facing directly where the gun was so there’s no way he didn’t see it being removed.
I was explaining this to my partner last night. It doesn’t matter it’s a blatant lie, what’s important is the average dolt believes the lie.
“Oh, a domestic terrorist with a gun? I’m glad they dealt with him”.
“Oh, she tried to run an ICE agent over? I’m glad they dealt with her.”
Remember the ‘big lie’: if a lie is large enough and repeated frequently, the masses will eventually believe it.
I’m fairly sure the reason this latest incident is blowing up in their faces is not the blatant lies, it’s that they tried to spin it so that Pretti deserved to die because he was carrying a gun. Which pisses off the 2A crowd. If they had shot an unarmed protester that wouldn’t be a problem: he didn’t comply, was impeding law enforcement, FAFO, etc., apply thought terminating phrase of choice. But because the conversation has become whether you should be executed for carrying a gun, that’s touched a nerve.
I’ve watched that video so many times, I don’t want to do it again, but I’m pretty sure this is accurate. Grey coat removes the gun from Alex, and as he’s walking away there’s a muzzle flash and the first shot can be heard. Then the rest of the shots all come a second or so later. The angle from the street where you can see Grey coat run away has the clearest view of it.
Oh and it wasn’t an accident. Motherfucker had gun training, he put his finger inside the trigger guard, he intended to discharge that weapon. You don’t get an oopsie poopsie for that.
Even the weapon did discharge, that would still be ICE’s fault for pepper spraying and beating the shit out of the guy. Maybe be more careful while you don’t know what on his person.
Given ICE’s general level of competence, is it possible the gun accidentally discharged as the agent was carrying it away?
Yeah! Who cares about the person who was killed! No, we have to protect our dumb shit administration. These people are disgusting ghouls
Are they saying this happened at today’s White House press event? Here it is and the official White House statement on this is, it’s the sanctuary city’s fault that ICE murdered those people.
Was it already the case before MAGA that it was completely normal for the highest law enforcement authorities in the US to blatantly lie and completely disregard the law, even breaking it themselves on a regular basis, even in high-profile cases?
As a European, I am now so used to the fact that absolutely nothing the White House communicates is even remotely true that it seems like the normal state of affairs in the US.
Is it just particularly extreme with this criminal mafia regime, or was it already common practice before?
Was it already the case before MAGA that it was completely normal for the highest law enforcement authorities in the US to blatantly lie and completely disregard the law, even breaking it themselves on a regular basis, even in high-profile cases?
Yes, but to a MUCH lesser extent. The atrocities of MAGA are the fascistic end result of DECADES of concerted and deliberate radicalization turned up to 11 once they got the green light.
As a European, I am now so used to the fact that absolutely nothing the White House communicates is even remotely true that it seems like the normal state of affairs in the US.
Same…
Is it just particularly extreme with this criminal mafia regime, or was it already common practice before?
Kinda answered your own question there: it’s basically a more extreme version of what was already common practice in the land of the fee and the home of the slave.
This administration is like Game of Thrones with the cast of Veep.
If these evil idiots had half a brain, they wouldn’t have immediately bum rushed the press and social media with half baked lies. They could’ve taken a beat to fully bake their lies.
They do not think they have to try, their guys usually pretend to agree with them. They never bother with plausibility now.
Maybe don’t publically claim every victim of a police shooting is a terrorist when you don’t have any information.
Leavitt is only 28. All that lying has aged her so much.
Is the big lie strategy finally backfiring? I don’t know why it took ten fucking years of this BS but I’ll take it.
Nah, they will just find new ways to set these precedents dishonoring the 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 1pth amendments. Probably the 5th too before long.
They are gearing up for fixing elections, these precedents are set on immigration because that is where they have the most support.
If their people buck at executing under false pretense and slandering to justify it, they will find a situation where they will support it.
Backtracking? How about keep walking… BACK UP, BACK THE FUCK UP. Opens fire on Nazi filth
Oh no you don’t
