• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    9 days ago

    Fascism is a big word with a lot of weight to it.

    The more you get into politics and the more you debate with people across the aisle, the more you realize you have to be careful what words you use, so as not to lose credibility.

    That being said…this is fascism. Period.

    It’s happening. It’s happening now. It’s happening here. It’s not debatable anymore.

  • architect@thelemmy.club
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    10 days ago

    Oh well now that YOU say it, king of the obvious, now we are allowed.

    You know, Start by saying you’re fucking sorry for being an idiot. Because that’s what you’re actually reporting.

  • Blackmist@feddit.uk
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    10 days ago

    Yes, we know.

    See, everyone knows that fascism is a bad thing. That has been taught in every school since the end of WW2.

    It’s just a shame that most people never bothered to look up what fascism actually is, and it can be something your guys do as well.

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      10 days ago

      Our general discourse has been so deeply and deliberately poisoned that people don’t pay attention to words broadly anymore. So many different foreign and domestic forces have worked so tirelessly to amplify the chaos and boost the worst takes on both sides of every social issue, that the general population of the US stopped paying attention. (The horrific 2024 exit-polling confirms this too.)

      This is why people are latching onto character over policy, it’s why Trump retains power despite not having any clue what he’s doing and is just obviously being led around by his cabinet. It’s why we all seem to care a lot more about what our favorite internet streamer has to say about a candidate than AP our Routers or the evening news, because the words have been said so much that people stopped paying attention.

      This is not a new, modern ploy either. The KGB and CIA both have written how to destabilize nations using these tactics as far back as the 50’s or earlier.

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        10 days ago

        Who’s that kgb guy that runs Russia loves trump and had been accused of interfering with international elections. Has a bigger army of Internet bots than the army he fields?

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          10 days ago

          I would wager that the army Elon employs is bigger. He deliberately monetized blue-check twitter accounts for high views and shares. Not much, just a few dollars a month, maybe a couple hundred dollars if you break some thousands of shares and views.

          For the average American this is not worth the time and effort to stay on Twitter all day and night farming engagement, but for the average citizen of a place like India, this is a living. So now in addition to the Russian bot-farms, Chinese espionage orgs, domestic groups of angry incels employing bot armies, we also now have millions of people in countries like India, Philippines, Pakistan and other countries who have been holistically outsourced to push rage-bait and propaganda through US culture and conversation.

          This has had a devastating effect on our domestic conversations. These people are probably fine, normal, decent people, but they have no stake in the USA’s future and are wrecking our present day so they get a meal tomorrow.

          We have to start treating the information feeds in new ways. Namely, by turning them all off and spending more time in local communities and socializing to form protective groups and power blocs in our neighborhoods and cities. The most sensational bullshit someone reads online will not withstand peer-pressure to think critically and not act stupid.

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    10 days ago

    “I resisted calling it fascism until it was too late and people were dying at the hands of monsters.”

    Get fucked. It was fascism when it was George Floyd and it’s fascism now. It’s been a fascism white people were willing to ignore because it didn’t impact them directly for fucking decades, if not a hundred years or more.

    Great job joining us in reality.

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    10 days ago

    For another, the term has been overused to the point of meaninglessness, especially by left-leaning types

    Jonathan Rauch is holding out on the one thing we want to see: the websites of these left-leaning types, because they’re the ones whose voices we should be hearing and promoting.

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      10 days ago

      LMAO they’re calling people fascists for acting like a fascist 🤷 not sure how that makes it meaningless.

  • But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world
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    10 days ago

    You guys are so screwed, I left Reddit cause of all the censorship and siding with the government.

    I’ve had comment removed from this community for being incendiary, for saying Trump and ICE agents need to feel the force of the second amendment.

    You guys are not even allowed to discuss anything further than a useless peaceful protest, or you get banned or shut down and silenced.

    Even regular folk who mod on Lemmy are tripping over themselves to stop us from actually doing anything