lmao people on here were calling THIS guy a lib? Fucking christ I know we are all cynical and been burned but shit folks what more can you ask for from an NYC mayoral candidate?
Lots of comparisons to AOC but I’ve never heard her use the phrase “seizing the means of production,” let alone referring to it as the end goal. I didn’t trust Ted Cruz or AG here and went and watched the video for myself. It’s phrased slightly differently but he says it and he says it casually as if it’s a given. Maybe we’re just not used to the dog whistles. Maybe people are put off, understandably, by him not wanting to say on TV in front of a bunch of normies that Israel must be destroyed. But Mamdani seems to be on a different level from the NYC socdems we’ve seen.
You wouldn’t know it given the reactions on this site. And I’m just happy we agree on “undue”. This is verbatim how people were doing AOC on r/cth however many years ago
Some of us are hopeful to watch the dreams of those who are more liberal than us get crushed. Obviously the situation with AOC and Bernie was radicalization fuel for many of us. The higher Zohran rises, the harder he falls (or succeeds somehow). This is exciting to see!
I think there’s a difference between people hoping for radicalization and those cheering on the campaign and holding onto the hope that he “succeeds somehow”
Personally, I’m mostly excited about a potential new wave of radicalized liberals after a likely ratfuck by Democrats (like they did to India Walton, when they worked with Republicans during the Buffalo general election). This would further damage the reputation of an already highly unpopular Democratic Party among young people. I’ve already seen a few of them being ready to give up on the Dems, as they see Zohran as some sort of last attempt at trying to “convince” the party to move left.
I’ve been looking at this race that way as well. Although my more pessimistic side thinks it’s starting to feel like the cycle in America is:
“new age cohort enters the electorate —> tried electoralism, gets fucked over —> a certain percent radicalise, a certain percent give up on politics, a certain percent surrender to the status quo —> a new age cohort enters the electorate”
Obama 2008, Sanders 2016, (potentially) Mamdani 2025… are these moments of disillusion radicalising more and more of a percentage of the whole population against electoralism? Or is it just a succession of new generations learning the same lesson over and over again?
Call me old fashioned but it’s probably deteriorating material conditions that are going to radicalise more people in the long run.
lmao people on here were calling THIS guy a lib? Fucking christ I know we are all cynical and been burned but shit folks what more can you ask for from an NYC mayoral candidate?
Lots of comparisons to AOC but I’ve never heard her use the phrase “seizing the means of production,” let alone referring to it as the end goal. I didn’t trust Ted Cruz or AG here and went and watched the video for myself. It’s phrased slightly differently but he says it and he says it casually as if it’s a given. Maybe we’re just not used to the dog whistles. Maybe people are put off, understandably, by him not wanting to say on TV in front of a bunch of normies that Israel must be destroyed. But Mamdani seems to be on a different level from the NYC socdems we’ve seen.
Bookmarking all yall for a year from now
‘You stupid fucks, how dare you be hopeful about anything ever’
Putting in quotes some shit I didn’t say. Temper your expectations
I’m pretty sure hexbear is aware of the pitfalls of electoralism.
Half of us on the site are 1 major life event from deleting ourselves, just let us have undue optimism for once ffs
You wouldn’t know it given the reactions on this site. And I’m just happy we agree on “undue”. This is verbatim how people were doing AOC on r/cth however many years ago
Some of us are hopeful to watch the dreams of those who are more liberal than us get crushed. Obviously the situation with AOC and Bernie was radicalization fuel for many of us. The higher Zohran rises, the harder he falls (or succeeds somehow). This is exciting to see!
I think there’s a difference between people hoping for radicalization and those cheering on the campaign and holding onto the hope that he “succeeds somehow”
Personally, I’m mostly excited about a potential new wave of radicalized liberals after a likely ratfuck by Democrats (like they did to India Walton, when they worked with Republicans during the Buffalo general election). This would further damage the reputation of an already highly unpopular Democratic Party among young people. I’ve already seen a few of them being ready to give up on the Dems, as they see Zohran as some sort of last attempt at trying to “convince” the party to move left.
I’ve been looking at this race that way as well. Although my more pessimistic side thinks it’s starting to feel like the cycle in America is:
“new age cohort enters the electorate —> tried electoralism, gets fucked over —> a certain percent radicalise, a certain percent give up on politics, a certain percent surrender to the status quo —> a new age cohort enters the electorate”
Obama 2008, Sanders 2016, (potentially) Mamdani 2025… are these moments of disillusion radicalising more and more of a percentage of the whole population against electoralism? Or is it just a succession of new generations learning the same lesson over and over again?
Call me old fashioned but it’s probably deteriorating material conditions that are going to radicalise more people in the long run.
Don’t worry, this is the election that’ll do it
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I’m glad we agree.
I can’t believe you would say something like that!
ML(AR/S)M(PM) doing a PPW, anything less is liberalism. (/j)
Best I can do is MLM3W doing a PPB.