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why is nobody mentioning pdf?
Because, PDF is a container, like a fancy zip, the pictures saved in are kept in their original format, (JPEG, PNG/APNG, AVIF, GIF, JP2k, JPXL, BMP…) unless you add a step to re-compress the all document with image.
It’s always slightly bigger than the original file.
What’s wrong with webp
Nothing really, people just hate it because support for it is bad (which will be worse for AVIF or JXL, but hey ho).
*because they use software with severely out-of-date codec support. I’ve never had an issue with webp.
Are you kidding? Everything on my computer that does image formats can do Webp
Webp doesn’t support interlacing, so it’s basically worthless
In all seriousness, it lacks some features, especially when compared to jxl, that stop it from being able to be a universal image format, which is something that jxl wants to achieve. All hail JPEG XL!
Check this out to see the differences.
What’s the one on the bottom right corner?
what’s the bottom right format?
also, avif and webp are both supported by voyager, firefox and chromium (at least for me) but what software actually supports JPEG XL?
jxl isn’t supported because google has a near monopoly on the web and has historically been very opposed to it (also they basically control Firefox financially)
most desktop Linux image processing software supports jxl, but only bespoke browsers like waterfox, safari and ladybird have support for it
Cromite does too, because technically Chromium has jxl support but removed it. Cromite reverses that commit.
I believe both Firefox and Chromium support JXL now, although they probably need to be enabled as an experimental setting.
APNG, which is technically not separate from PNG proper now.
I can’t even view OP’s image at all, but it’s just showing as WebP to me? Is Catbox just down?
Catbox is blocked by some ISPs irrc, could be that. It’s not down though: https://status.catbox.moe/
JXL is coming very soon actually to Chrome, Firefox, and any up-to-date PDF viewer (they’re adding it to the format)
Has support in eog, imageglass, whatever that foss galley app on Android is called, a lot of open source software, anything Apple (safari, iOS everywhere)
Jpegxl should be the default
PNG PNG PNG PNG PNG
Looks at all those PNGs seems like everyone wants to do that.
Jpeg for lossy photos, png for lossless, gif for 256 color animations, what else?
bmp for that real oldschool feel.
Jxl for everything
jxl rules <3
I have a script on my machnie that turns every crap webp that I save from Lemmy into glorious JXL.
Honestly, Lemmy as an anti-Big System protocol/community idea should serve JXL or APNG by default.
png is always what I choose. everything supports it and I don’t have any issue with the quality
Go with the times, PNG is old as dirt now. Everything supports Webp!
/edit: the downvotes are hilarious. People have no problem moving on from mp3 to FLAC or so, but somehow they form an emotional attachment to PNG?
Except facebook, but we do not talk aboout it there
Yes, and webp lossless is really good. JXL lossless is usually better, but either are better than png.
Random high quality jpeg I found of a screenshot of sheet music:
Original: 53.3 kb
JXL: 12.2 kb
Webp: 25.9 kb
AVIF: 22.6 kb
PNG: 47.3 kb
Most are not anywhere near as favorable, that happened to be the most recent thing in my camera roll. Let me try another:
Original PNG: 19.0 kb
JXL: 12.9 kb
Webp: 15.7 kb
AVIF: 14.9 kb
Finally, some larger and photographic content:
Original PNG: 318 kb
JXL: 185 kb
Webp: 247 kb
AVIF: 201 kb
Encoder efforts picked to be the highest that would finish in within a few seconds in Image Toolbox on my phone. Webp doesn’t go up as high so it was finishing quicker here, and PNG doesn’t have varying effort afaik
BTW JXL effort 1 lossless is insanely fast to encode (the order of a gigapixel per second) and also basically always smaller than PNG
I don’t have any issue with the quality
Yeah cause it’s lossless, which is why the files are also significantly bigger.
