• WallsToTheBalls@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Ah yes, leftists letting perfect be the enemy of good and turning on someone they elected before he even takes office

    Iconic

  • HazardousBanjo@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    5 months ago

    Hot Take;

    You don’t vote for a dem soc with the expectation that they are infallible or going to stick 100% to their word.

    You vote for the dem soc because the alternatives (neo-liberals and fascists) are objectively worse by every metric.

    Mamdani can backtrack on 75% of what he said and still be the most progressive mayor in NYC history.

    One shouldn’t bitch and moan against those who supported him for supporting what he promised. Hold Mamdani accountable for his backtracking and failures and try for someone comparatively more progressive next time. Of one doesn’t pop up, keep with Mamdani until another pops up or he can’t run anymore.

    Again, it’s not because Mamdani is amazing, but because the others are worse.

      • Alaik@lemmy.zipEnglish
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        5 months ago

        Yet they’ll freely admit the overton window is shifting right. They’ve seen firsthand that red voters showing up and voting for their shitbag, even if they aren’t promising to completely dismantle every institution they can like theyd want. Meanwhile, if we dont have a leftist messiah they’d rather stay home and bitch online.

        One of these strategies has shown to work and it isnt theirs.

        • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.worldBanned from communityEnglish
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          5 months ago

          I can stay at home, bitch online, and vote all at the same time. Mail in voting is great! I never miss an election since my ballot is mailed to me, and I have a month to find out who these people are.

          • Ach@lemmy.worldEnglish
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            5 months ago

            And because of the points you’re responding to, you very well may lose the right to do that.

            • AngryCommieKender@lemmy.worldBanned from communityEnglish
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              5 months ago

              California is more likely to leave the union than get rid of mail in voting. We’ve been doing it since before The Civil War.

      • Xenny@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        5 months ago

        It’s called playing politics trying to succeed during a goddamn fascist regime. If we’re not going to grab our fucking guns then this is the way we have to progress. It’s stupid and it’s wrong but the fact of the matter is there is stupid and wrong people who vote. We shouldn’t be like crabs in a bucket. Let’s let the most progressive mayor we’ve ever elected in US history try to actually do something before we start jumping in criticizing him from all sides of the political spectrum.

        • dogbert@lemmy.zipEnglish
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          5 months ago

          Nope! The “playing politics” narrative completely falls apart if you even glance at his mayoral campaign. Dude basically had the election in the bag while calling for the arrest of Netanyahu. He earned the vast majority of his support through this rhetoric and only changed course after that was secured.

          Keeping that mega-zio as police commissioner is absurd and completely at odds with the messaging he ran on and won with. Remember, choosing your own police commissioner is something every mayor does, and he chose to keep this one with only 1 year of experience under her belt.

          The way his campaign has been run the past few months you would think New York was entirely populated with Jewish people and nobody else. It’s frankly weird the way he has centered their feelings around his entire administration.

          You’re confusing nuance with centrism, which is a common mistake. My comment however is supported with real arguments and examples, while your comment has none.