Cool…

This one goes out to all the small government, privacy loving, Republicans out there, supposedly hating invasive big brother tactics and representing the values of the American heartland.

Would be much appreciated if you could have a word with your people about this.

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    This first thing you should do when going protesting, is to leave your phone at home.

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        I wouldn’t trust a foil bag to do anything 100%.

        the only 100% way to not be caught is not bring it.

        it also provides an alibi. “see, my phone was here all day long.”

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          I’m talking about an actual faraday bag, not a foil bag. That, combined with a powered off device keeps you fairly protected. They aren’t going to get into your phone if it’s powered off.

          it also provides an alibi. “see, my phone was here all day long.”

          There’s going to be a deviation in usage regardless, it’s not providing an alibi. A gap of time when you’re not using your device that you normally would be is a marker they look for. They key is keeping them locked out (again, power them off).

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          I mean, a proper Faraday cage will block anything unless the US government has figured out how to break the laws of physics…

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            A proper Faraday cage, a truly excellent one, just the most Faraday of all the cages, is easily defeated by physical attacks such as getting your phone cloned when you get mass arrested and summarily released on OR.

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            Faraday cage does not prevent gyroscopes and accelerometers from working. Then if you remove it from a faraday cage in the future, it will transmit all that movement

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        Not good enough. Phones can figure out its location using gyroscopes and accelerometer, then if at any point in the future, you remove it from the faraday cage, your entire movement logs are transmitted.

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          Unless your device is already compromised, that information isnt being logged when the device is powered off so it’s kind of moot.

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            “powered off”

            Unless I’m holding the battery in one hand and the phone in the other I don’t trust it being turned off either.

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        That burner cant ever have connected to a cell tower when its near your house, otherwise its not longer a “burner”

        Edit: Also: Beware of the possibility of there being malware that logs gyroscope and accelerometer data. Those info can be used to figure out your location, then transmitted whenever it has a chance.

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      I bring my phone. I likely won’t be breaking any laws, and I can afford a lawyer. So yeah arrest me and waste the system’s time. Just another data point they have to sort.

      And if it gets to the point where none of that matters we were cooked anyway

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    Shouting from a helicopter “Please disperse because we’ll come to your house and murder your families if you don’t” sounds like an actionable threat. And helicopters are difficult to fly on a good day. Would be a shame if someone up there had an accident.

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      I don’t know about you but if I’m on the ground (protesting or not) the last thing I want is a helicopter coming down anywhere near me.

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    Can you imagine 6 dudes with AR-15s, nothing fancy, responding that that threat? One wonders what might happen.

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    Talking a whole lot of shit for someone riding around in a machine that will find literally any excuse to break down. Helicopters are sketchy as fuck, and even if you manage to autorotate perfectly to try and recover from a stall, you’re still liable to suffer severe or fatal injuries. It’s super easy to crash due to human error or some kind of mechanical failure.

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      A well kept helicopter is a reliable machine as any other, but it’s true that it’s probably a civil heli with extra cop stuff, ergo easy to down with some fuckery.

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    Would be much appreciated if you could have a word with your people about this.

    I’m an American, but my only experience with LA was traveling through for 2 days about 10 years ago. AKA no experience with LA.

    This action appears to be originated from LAPD and therefore the local LA government. I have always considered LA to be deeply blue, and would therefore think that their local LA government would be Democrat, not Republican.

    So should this not be the local blue voting populace having a word with their blue elected politicians?

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      The police are violent thugs everywhere, not just Republican cities and states.

      It’s because they have almost complete immunity from being prosecuted for wrongdoing and also, well, they are incredibly well armed and often use their monopoly on violence to threaten blue politicians.

      I grew up in a city where cops didn’t like their own chief of police because he wanted to drug test the force regularly after several got caught doing drugs on the job. The chiefs own force stalked him, harassed him, made violent threats against him and his family, until he was ran out of town. The police union sued him and said drug testing them violated their rights. The police union won in court. Those drug tests never happened.

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        That’s kinda what I’m getting at. This isn’t R vs D, and further perpetuating that is lending into the division of the country that the powers that be want.

        This is class war, always has been. Police are the arm wielding power of the rich, used to push down the working class.

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      LAPD is notoriously corrupt and vile even among other police peers and has been for a long time. Its only competitor is the NYPD

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      LAPD is not under the control of any government. They have literal warring gang factions within the LAPD. It is an occupying junta force.

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        As someone who lives in Hurricane Alley, have you tried just not living where earthquakes happen?

        That seems to be the standard response of those in California when a hurricane hits my area…

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          You won’t have much of a choice when FEMA is gone. I mean, less and less people will have homes there anymore.

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          Interesting that a Californian making a callous comment about living in hurricane country is somehow equivalent to the conservative media industry absolutely cheering bloodshed any time natural disasters strike us. 🙄 If California celebrated like this any time, much less every time, a natural disaster hit somewhere else it would have its own dedicated conservative channel playing it on loop.

          I’ve lived through multiple hurricanes because I haven’t always lived in California. People from everywhere say that stupid shit about hurricane prone areas. Take the chip off your shoulder.

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            It’s more than a callous comment. It is the epitome of victim blaming, and the fact that you are attempting to make apologies for it is telling.

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              Go have this fight with someone that wants to have it and didn’t make it clear that kind of behavior isn’t alright. Maybe somewhere other than on a thread about cops threatening to come assault protesters in their homes.

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                It’s a very personal issue for me.

                I lost everything and had to start over with little more then the clothes on my back, and then to hear people say I should’ve just moved?

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                  Did you hear that from the president and the press? Or just random assholes on the internet?