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I mean, those two things aren’t mutually exclusive. I can believe the science AND ALSO engage in behaviors it says are unhealthy for me.
I have night light mode on my phone. So I’m good!!!
That’s not a scientific thing tho ! Proven to have no effect in fact.
Apple wouldn’t lie to me.
I agree. I believe science but I seriously think the BIPM (Bureau International des Poids et Mesures) is wrong. They made SI bad by glossing over the necessary base unit of angle, there should be 8 base dimension, not 7.
Except it’s not a unit, it’s a unitless ratio. You’d have one for every number of dimension. The mol is arguably the extra one.
I seriously disagree with you, your you’re wrong.
here’s an article which supports my reasoning https://arxiv.org/pdf/2108.05704
No one stops you from putting radians and steradians in your units. But it’s unitless by definition.
I strongly disagree with the definition itself. And yes, there are stops that prevent me from doing that in scientific computing resources like sympy, matlab, and my professors.
You disagree that a ratio is unitless? What’s the cos of a unit?
Me trying not to murder my partner who I love very much when her phone suddenly blasts out Instagram brain-rot at 11pm and I’m trying to maintain a vaguely healthy bedtime ritual.
I need my nebuliser ASMR every morning I have to go to work or I will be very grumpy all day
Wait for real?
Yes.
Relaxe Aquion Youtube and SpotifyThat’s so funny because I have to give a nebulizer to my grandma sometimes and we both hate the sound 🤣. It’s so loud!
No judgment, I just didn’t realize people found it soothing.
Me using phones : wow, I can sleep at 1am, great.
Me “just going to bed” : great, it’s 4am and I’m still overthinking my shortcomings!It’s a matter of effort vs reward. Will it make it easier to sleep? Yes. Will it make it easier enough to be worth not using my phone? No.
I’ve been trying to talk my wife into dropping the brightness to 50% for years. Her phone is so bright it keeps ME up at night on the other side of the bed. I have to set up a light shield to go to sleep :P
How are you supposed to stop being sleepy in the morning without pulling out your phone.
It’s nice to know what time it is too
I believe what science is saying. I’m just not going to follow it. If I try to sleep without reading something my brain will start ruminating on things and then I’m definitely not getting to sleep. All my reading materials are on a screen.
I tried buying more physical books. I have a small stack of it, but I can’t motivate myself to actually keep reading them. And there’s always the danger that I find a page turner that’ll keep me reading the entire night …
I just listen to podcasts at a volume low enough that I have to try to listen, tires my brain out
It’s not a settled issue. There are research papers that show evidence that blue light affects sleep, which is not the same thing as blue light makes your sleep worse.
So does it make sleep better?
It’s associated with dim light you see naturally at dawn and dusk, so it makes sense that it has some effect. But exactly what isn’t clear and it might be a lot of it depends on the circumstance.
What’s this about right after waking up? (I may have struck this from memory)
Now that you mention it, my phone is by far the most reliable alarm clock I’ve ever had. It does DST switches for me. The battery recharges itself. I just never noticed because phones sucked at first.
We have phones doubling as alarm clocks to thank for the technological gains in RTC (realtime clock) chips, and deeper CPU sleep states.
All new chips have robust sleep options these days because phones needed to be reliable alarm clocks when “off”.
Efficient RTC chips with alarm pins, born out of that chaotic era
If’s hard to believe when my circadian rhythm was still fucked long before I had a screen I could take to bed.
Just bekause you believe it doesn’t mean you have to obey it
Just because I believe doesn’t mean I listen.
I have Delayed Sleep Phase Syndrome… light has no effect on me. Checkmate scientists!
Me too!
Question: does your schedule slowly morph and change over time or does it stay consistent?
Because I think I have non-24 on top of it and I was wondering if it was part of the normal symptoms or not.
If I let myself I will easily fall into a 28-30 hour cycle and end up only going through 5 or 6 “days” in a week.
Yep. Sounds about right! Sucks, I’m sorry.
I have a strong feeling I do too, inherited from my mom (both of us self-diagnosed). I also appreciate you calling it a syndrome and not a disorder. It’s only a “disorder” because society decided to only accommodate one type of circadian rhythm. Humans have needed people on night watch forever, my money is that this was an advantageous phenomenon.
I get why you shouldn’t use it before bed but why not after waking up? If it keeps you awake shouldn’t it help you wake up?








