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return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 4 months ago

Cocaine "no worse than whiskey," would be "sold like wine" if legalized worldwide, Colombia's president says

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Cocaine "no worse than whiskey," would be "sold like wine" if legalized worldwide, Colombia's president says

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return2ozma@lemmy.world to News@lemmy.world · 4 months ago
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Cocaine "is no worse than whiskey" and is only illegal because it comes from Latin America, said Colombian President Gustavo Petro, whose nation is the world's biggest cocaine producer and exporter.
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    Way easier to die from cocaine…

    “The lethal dose of cocaine is 82.5 milligrams per kilogram (mg/kg).”

    https://www.addictionresource.net/lethal-doses/cocaine/

    “Blood alcohol concentrations (BAC) of 0.31% to 0.45% are considered life-threatening. The lethal dose of alcohol is about 5 to 8 grams per kilogram of body weight (g/kg).”

    https://www.addictionresource.net/lethal-doses/alcohol/

    Google tells me 1 shot of whiskey is about 14g of pure alcohol, so a fatal dose for someone weighing 81kg (180 pounds) would be 29 to 46 shots, or 43.5 to 69 ounces. (Nice!)

    A standard 750ml liquor bottle is 25.3 ounces.

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      I mean, yeah, but if you had it regulated to the point where people could dose accordingly, it would lower overdoses. Street stuff, you could get a batch 5x more potent than the last and take the same amount and die. I’ve always been a legalize and tax all drugs person. People are going to do it regardless, and making it illegal creates cartels and clogs up the jails with nonviolent offenders.

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      Well, we also don’t include all the drunk driving deaths, or the “he gets like that when he drinks” abuse. Is cocaine worse? Yea probably. Is drinking safe enough for the favourable comparison just because it’s harder to OD? Ehhhhh…

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      So downing a 1.5 litre neck of vodka in a hurry can kill you (if you can keep it down). And of course, if you’re taking something else at the same time, there can be synergistic effects that considerably lower the lethal dosage.

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      Right but you don’t chug a pint of cocaine

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        Anymore

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        Definitely true! I hope nobody chugs a pint of pure alcohol either!

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      Now how many average sized lines of cocaine is 82 milligrams?

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        I guess it depends on the line, but 1/8th of an ounce is 3.5g, 2 of those could be fatal for someone 180 pounds.

        https://pacificsandsrecovery.com/what-is-an-eight-ball-of-coke/

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          That’s quite a large amount of coke though

          And as the normal route is too snort it, I’m pretty sure you will have a hard time to get that much stuff inside you at once

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            Bye, troll.

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      The point is how much you need to take for an active dose (eg getting drunk/high) and when you take this into account - it’s actually more likely you’ll kill yourself getting drunk than doing coke.

      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Drug_danger_and_dependence.svg

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      I don’t even know where to being with that. But we at least know you don’t drink.

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        Oh, that’s definitely true. If I have one beer I puke for three days:

        https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17659-alcohol-intolerance

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        Oh, that’s definitely true. If I have one beer I puke for three days:

        https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/17659-alcohol-intolerance

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        For a 180 pound person, 81 kg, the fatal dose would be 82.5mg * 81 = 6,682.5mg / 1,000 = 6.7g of coke.

        An 1/8th of an ounce of cocaine is 3.5g.

        https://pacificsandsrecovery.com/what-is-an-eight-ball-of-coke/

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          It’s the Yanks tool again.

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            Oh, man, don’t even get me started on fentanyl.

            We decriminalized it and it was a fucking disaster.

            https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/portland-fentanyl-legalized-overdose-crisis-1235323248/

            https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/fentanyl/sinaloa-cartel-oregon-fentanyl/

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            I’m sorry? What?

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              • Wren@lemmy.world
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                Pardon?

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                  That Jordan Lund guy making pseudoscientific claim without any credentials and then banning people who disagree with him.

                  That same guy from a country that destroys south America with their illegal drug trade.

                  Fkn hypocrites

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                    I’m pretty sure you’re wrong. If it so happens that I’m wrong, you’ll respond to this comment with an explanation, and I’ll concede.

                    The stage is yours…

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                    I have no ability to ban anyone in news, I’m sorry you don’t like sourced science and math.

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