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  • ImperialATAT@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    I think the groundbreaking part was Dan O’Bannon’s note in the Alien script that gave us more amazing characters in Aliens.

    “At the start of Dan O’Bannon’s script for Alien, there’s a note that few other screenplays contain: “The crew is unisex and all parts are interchangeable for men or women.” It’s a line that fundamentally altered the nature of the film, affecting everything from the presentation of its characters to the way Ridley Scott and his team approached casting, and it was certainly for the best.”

    source here

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      2 months ago

      Haha I read that originally as “they be robots and have removable arms and legs that fit erybody else.”

      That’s fascinating though. I must say I like Aliens much better. I rarely revisit Alien but I might do in the near future.

      • SpongyAneurism@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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        2 months ago

        Imho, they are different genres altogether.

        Alien is a real horror-movie, while Aliens leans more towards the action-movie genre, of course retaining horror elements, but it doesn’t quite play on the body-horror and fear of the unknown as much as the first part does.

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          2 months ago

          Yes. As a child Alien was too scarey for me but I was able to watch Aliens. As an adult I don’t usually wade into horror, except on a Super Eyepatch Wolf tangent, but still love action sci-fi.

          I find it interesting how a trilogy (then… However many there are now…) can wander from one genre to the other. It’s risky because you make a sequel partly because the the financial security you get from your fan base. Not sticking to that fanbases tastes is risky but also introduces people to new things in a more comfortable way.

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      It was, even though apparently one of her parents is of Brazilian and Moroccan descent.

      This is mildly racist in two different directions. There was clearly an assumption of what a “private Vasquez” should look like they were shooting for. She was allegedly cast partially because she was in the right shape for the character already. These days they would have gotten an actor in shape that looked like the ethnic stereotype they had in mind, probably.

      Which is still kinda more messed up than just having cast her, kept the character and just not spray tan her. Didn’t even have to change her name. I don’t speak for American latinos, but from where I stand the visual design of the character seems like a much bigger issue than the casting.

      • RejZoR@lemmy.ml
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        2 months ago

        A lot of ppl were saying if you need a disabled role, hire a disabled person, if you need this and that hire someone with that exact trait. That’s not the point of acting. The point of a good actor is that they can change for every role.

        • Match!!@pawb.social
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          2 months ago

          okay but another point of acting is authentically bringing the experience of the character portrayed so that the audience can empathize with that character, so stuffing someone without that lived experience into the role deceives the audience into thinking that they’re empathizing with people like that character when they’re actually just getting what the actor thinks it’s like instead

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    2 months ago

    It might not seem like it now but Vasquez was a groundbreaking character at the time.

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          2 months ago

          She has the most iconic line from my youth.

          Some soldier, saying to Vasquez who’s doing pull-ups: hey Vasquez, you ever been mistaken for a man To which she replies: no, have you?

          Also the way

          she

          dies is bad ass.

          I mean next to Ripley, the android and the little girl, she’s the most memorable character in that movie.