A video, discovered on the cellphone of a paramedic who was found along with 14 other aid workers in a mass grave in Gaza in late March, shows that the ambulances and fire truck that they were traveling in were clearly marked and had their emergency signal lights on when Israeli troops hit them with a barrage of gunfire.

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    They behead newborns. We don’t have to justify anything. The entire world is under their thumb now, it is obvious. And they don’t have benevolent plans.

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    Israel shooting medics, throwing them in a mass grave and then lying about it? Better not talk about it, or we might be labelled as antisemites and/or terrorist supporters.

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    I am astonished how silent the west is. Why not a single nation is required to conduct independent investigation and require accountability on Israel’s side.

    What happened on the 7th of October was horrible but it is not giving Israel a carte blanche to commit war crimes and crimes against humanity.

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      But also why do you and others in the west keep acting like this started on Oct 7th? Israel has been fucking up Palestine for as long as I can remember.

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      Repub or Dem no American in power will censure Israel b/c the U.S. will do nothing to jeopardize our military reach there. It’s a sad fact that is at the basis of all of this, and this fundamental misunderstanding cost Kamala a lot of voters

      Everyone wants to pretend it’s satanism or globalism or communism or whatever fucking ism is the bad guy this week but really it’s just that the U.S. refuses to give up willingly the title of ‘world’s best warlord’

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      I also wonder what are the israelian citizens doing/thinking? Are they all as extreme as Netanjahu? Or am i just missing their demonstrations against genocide?

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        The Jewish People Policy Institute Israel Index survey found that 8 out of 10 Jewish Israelis agreed with Trump’s proposal of expelling Palestinians from Gaza.

        Forty-three percent of all Israelis said that the expulsion plan was “practical” and should be implemented, while 30 percent said the plan was “desirable” but not practical.

        A minority of 13 percent - made of up 54 percent of Palestinian respondents and just three percent of Jewish Israelis - described the Trump plan as “immoral”.

        https://lemm.ee/post/60088182

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          That’s fucking disgusting. Even at the start of Russian invasion, their citizens were protesting and going to jail for it. Never saw the same from israeli citizens. Guess this explains why.

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        They elected Netanyahu in a democratic way. Israeli citizens have zero empathy from me.

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          Empathy for what? They are going to rule the world, the rest of us are either cattle or vermin for them. All because of a handful of agents.

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        like every population they are mixed, and there have been public protests so at least there is some opposition

        Mostly I think the average person is just low information and agitated with a constant background of fear and confusion, tribalistic and relying on gut feeling over rationality

        There are also some ridiculously greedy and violent bandits that will kill a family for land, but they are in the minority.

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      This is what eventually broke me during the last Trump vs. Biden/Harris election.

      I understand a lot of people shit on (non)voters like me, but it was the first time in 20 years that I could not vote either way. I always thought it would get bad, and then worse, and then worse still, but I honestly thought eventually the Biden Admin would grow a pair of gonads and say “enough”. Right around the time the video was released of Israelis setting Palestinians on fire in the Hospital and the IDF throwing people off of roofs, that’s when just something inside of me died.

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        And it really boggles my head that you have only two political parties there. Like what the heck, what kind of democracy is this?

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          It’s not a democracy it’s a representative democracy so basically we have a giant suggestion box that our elected leaders can look at and say “I’ll consider that in my vote in Congress”.

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          well it was put together at the end of the 1700s, by the kind of guys rich enough to take a summer off to go argue with their peers over the details. The whole thing was designed take democratic input without actually having to be beholden to public sentiment. They were pretty open about that fact, it’s all over their correspondences and publications.

          Obviously all these years latter it’s not quite the same beast they bred, but it still has the same basic shape and function.

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          also they were a bunch of libertarian laissez-faire slavers what did you expect

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        Don’t let people shame you into the lesser of two evils argument because it’s your vote at the end of the day. I heard all sides for the past 10 years now and honestly we got to Trump because of Hillary and not having a party that stood for anything.

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          It’s not lesser of two evils it’s inaction that’s the issue “the world sucks so let me do absolutely nothing about it whaaaa” just fuck right off to a forest cabin or smt instead of spreading your shit defeatism onto others.

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            You mean like how democrats love to claim their hands are tied on any issue that benefits the common person? Pointing out that electoralism hasn’t worked isn’t defeatism, it’s recognizing reality.

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            Not what I said. If you think the Democratic party is going to save you than go ahead and keep voting for Chuck Schumer’s fetal position strategy because it’s your vote and you shouldn’t be shamed in voting one way or another same as this guy doing whatever he wants with his vote. That’s it.

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            Your right wing democrats aint gonna do fucking shit. They cant even stand up to Trump. They are the ones literally doing nothing and just standing back

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    Israel will claim anything to not seem like genocidal maniacs. Seriously, fuck Netanyahu. The arrogance of killing CLEARLY marked aid workers, and claiming they weren’t marked is baffling.

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      It’ll be one of the first cases which has irrefutable proof of war crime, without any scope of ‘they were Hamas’ sissy cry.

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        It hasn’t for quite some time because the powers that be found they can distract everyone with celebrity bullshit and cats on the internet, destroying our collective memory span so they can continue to commit atrocity after atrocity while we are all too depressed and endorphin-seeking to fight back.

        And in a few minutes someone will come along to tell me why I am wrong and stupid but no one will care because this is ALL buried in a pile of irrelevant, life eroding infotainment

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    the paramedic who filmed the video was later found with a bullet in his head in the mass grave. His name has not been disclosed yet because he has relatives living in Gaza concerned about Israeli retaliation

    “We killed your son, and it came to light, so now we’re going to kill you.”

    It’s truly hard to fathom the depth of evil in isreal right now. And we’re fucking funding it. We’re arming them, and paying them to continue. Meanwhile AIPAC continues to fund primaries against our politicians that speak out. The US is a fucking joke.

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      Don’t forget, the US pays for Israel is to come to the US to train their police departments into believing that every civilian is basically a terrorist that needs to be killed.

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    They straight up ambushed those guys. Makes me wonder if the car accident was staged specifically to attract emergency workers.

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    somehow this went from defending themselves against terrorist’s, to them becoming terrorists as well

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        Religion as a concept and religious states are nothing short of fascism. It doesn’t matter if the upmost entity is fictional, and the power is actually wielded by kings or popes and such, or if it’s Hitler, at the end it’s all the same: A way to suppress and mass murder anyone and anything that doesn’t please the Führer(s).

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          Zionism is a secular/atheist project. It was strongly opposed by religious Jews at the beginning and still is by many. They had to work very strongly to create some religiously painted zionism.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism

          You are blaming the side of ethnic Jewish people that mostly opposed Zionism for it. And especially blaming it on the religion is strange, as their motivation for opposing Zionism is religious.

          I have the feeling that many people are just projecting their experiences and concepts of their brand of extremist Christians (Evangelical, hardcore Catholics…) onto Jews and Muslims.

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            Yes, it’s totally the christians double-death-sentencing 16 year olds for being homosexual and not believing in god, not the UAE government.

            Religion as a concept should not exist. Genocides, mass enslaving and gassing are almost all results of religion and religion-like structures. It’s no wonder that countries built, formed and led by religions clash with other countries, as almost every religions literal only purpose is to 1) provide comfort for people in need and 2) establish and burn that batshit crazy believe in every humans mind, bind them to the leaders indefinitely and take over literally every speck of the earth, because only that religion is correct, and should rule. You know what other moves had that exact same signature, motives and effects? Correct, the NSDAP under Hitler. Which is why it’s literally seen as a “replacement-religion” - it combines everyone under one small group of leaders, with bullshit takes and erases everything else. The only difference being that religion (again, as a concept, not the people) is much more subtle, at least in modern times. But as we see, everywhere, especially in countries with religion (religious leaders themselves) as the defacto government, it still very much exists.

            As long as religion has any power, and can therefore fulfill purpose 2, it’s literal fascism. We need to destroy each and every government and large religious organizations, remove any power from lobbies and churches, and provide all children with neutral information about everything, including religion. So they can themselves choose to believe in bullshit, so it may help them, but without granting anyone arbitrary power by those beliefs.

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          Militant atheists will never cease to amaze me with the nonsense they come up with (and how they say “religion” but can only think of Christianity as an example).

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    “advancing suspiciously”

    Any Palestinian moving is advancing suspiciously by IDF definition

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    This video shows why Israel needs our aid so badly. With a few billion more dollars, they can implement badly needed training that will keep their troops from firing on rescue workers or bombing hospitals.

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    I seriously think at some point a dirty bomb is going to go off in Tel Aviv based on the actions the Israelis take today.

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      Watch Til Kingdom Come. full doc is on youtude.

      In 2017, when Trump’s America abandoned the 2 state solution and went in full throated support of Israel with recognisation of Jerusalem, it was the spark that lead to this whole situation. Now that Trump is back in power, his Christian fundamentalist backers are sitting back and awaiting their rapture. Fucking crazy shit.

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    What I don’t get is that almost nothing is happening. They are systematically and blatantly committing the most atrocious warcrimes and there is no outcry by the nations. What they do in one day would be enough to denounce any weaker developing country. The west is showing once again that the international community is really all about control, capitalism and racism.

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      How is it just blamed on “the west”. China, India and other “Eastern” countries are in the UN as well. Would you not have to say it just shows they care nothing about the international community and it is really about their control and power as well? The world is watching executions around the world, and people are just being censored to/from it by their governments. Israel’s biggest trading partner is China by far, almost twice the U.S. Not any huge press from them about stopping.

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        Good point, I don’t disagree. China doesn’t have a history of writing human rights on their flags though.