They’ve got a perfect storm building here. Significant price increases, a recession thats likely to officially hit sometime just after release, tariffs, and a growing disdain for Nintendo’s anti piracy efforts.
They better hope that the performance increases make it technically prohibitive to emulate.
Also the expensive SDHCe cards and the game-key cartridges because games are too big to fit on the standard 64GB carts. That will add to the cost even more and the whole thing is confusing/laughable!
64GB is standard? Nintendo is really nowhere near making a console like PlayStation or Sony, huh. Mental of them think they have any power to set the prices. Very few people are going to get their console outside of a sale. As for games, I hope they get pirated
It’s not standard as devs can choose a few diferent sizes but according to CD Projekt Red the highest capacity available is 64GB.
That’s the game cart size. The switch 2 comes with 256GB built in and is expandable.
That’s said, the Switch was also expandable. I put a 256GB card in and like 55+ games later (only 7 are digital though) I still have plenty of room. Switch/Switch 2 games aren’t nearly as big as Xbox or PS5 games are. I’ve not even cared about how much storage I’ve got free on my Switch in forever… where as my PS5 got a 2TB upgrade and I still have to keep an eye on it from time to time.
That’s going to be their problem with this. Is the tech similar to the switch, just more powerful?
If so, im guessing there will be a huge effort to make an emulator. And im guessing it will happen quickly.
It seems that ryujinx’s creator got a big check to stop, so maybe others are hoping for the same.
The thing about growing anti-piracy disdain - Nintendo doesn’t care about it because pirates don’t buy their stuff. Nintendo sells stuff for children so they are not that interested in building brand awareness by being lenient on anti-piracy enforcement. By the time their customers have money they are playing Call of Duty and Nintendo ain’t about that. Just a different strategy compared to Microsoft or Sony.
Nintendo sells stuff for children of all ages, and I would bet that a significant customer base is adults who want to continue their childhood hobby. Not enough to make a console unprofitable, but surely enough to make a dent. And I have to say as an adult Nintendo kid who is an unabashed pirate, I actually still own a significant amount of switch games. Pirates don’t pay for everything, but not every pirate pays for nothing.
If Nintendo started to cater to that niche demographic they wouldn’t be able to balance that with being effectively a toy company. If Nintendo wouldn’t be the kind of assholes they are sometimes, they wouldn’t make games worth playing too. What they’re doing confuses people because they’re the only ones to do that. I think that’s worth preserving regardless and other people must think that too, otherwise they wouldn’t be so angry about Nintendo approach to roms and stuff - they want to play it even after so much time passed.
I don’t think it’s a niche market, personally. But of course I could be wrong, it would be neat to do a study. I assume Nintendo adults like us with kids makes up a noticeable number of sales. Sure, there’s probably a larger market in New kids in general, but I wouldn’t discount this demographic completely.
But I agree wholeheartedly with you that Nintendo’s stance towards its customers is abrasive at best.
In justifying the $450 price of the Switch 2, Nintendo executives predictably pointed to the system’s upgraded hardware specs, as well as new features like GameChat and mouse mode.
GameChat is truly a revolution. We haven’t used voice chat for games for like 25 years, definitely not.
Nobody asked for the mouse mode, it will probably be used by two games, made by Nintendo themselves, then just be forgotten.
Oh. I think you’re wrong on that last point.
You can now (on June 5th) very easily play most PC games on the Switch 2.
Do you remember Halo Wars?
Do you remember Starcraft 64?
This was a clever cash grab, an attempt to tap into entire genres that just would not have translated otherwise.OH SHIT I JUST REALIZED MARIO PAINT IS COMING BACK
I’m leaving this with no edit so you can screenshot it later when they announce Mario Paint 3.
You can now (on June 5th) very easily play most PC games on the Switch 2.
I mean, other consoles support proper KB+M, but it’s not like Paradox is rushing to get their games released on Playstation. Why would the Switch be different, with a worse mouse and no keyboard?
Consumers explain why they don’t give a fuck; too expensive is too expensive.
“nah, idk we gotta keep making lots of profit. On the console and the games, yeah. Idk, wish we didnt have to make so much money. Sucks”
Not a Nintendo fanboy, but I have to say, this will be the 2nd Nintendo console I’ve skipped, the other one being the Wii U.
I’m just not seeing a compelling reason to buy one. The big push seems to be “Look, look, we can do big boy games like Street Fighter 6 now!” and I’m like “That’s nice, I don’t need a new console for that…”
I bought a switch during covid, and very quickly realized that nostalgia does not make up for the lack of games that catch my attention. I have more time in games that don’t run well on switch, like Civilization, than I do on Nintendo releases. I got close with Animal Crossing, but after quarantine ended I never picked it up again xD
Definitely going to pick up a steam deck as my next big gaming purchase, because I really liked the portability of the switch.
See, I never understood Animal Crossing. I had it on the Game Cube. “I know, let’s take an RPG, remove everything interesting to do, and just leave an inventory system, massive debt, and fishing.”
I would not compare it to an RPG. I’d say it’s more akin to Sims perhaps. The appeal is the coziness, discovering the variety of villagers, customizing your island, designing your home.
Most of the fun was chasing my friends around and smacking their heads with bug nets. And finding things that they wanted and leaving gifts on their beaches. The game itself wasn’t fun, which is why I haven’t played it since we all went back to our lives after covid.
It’s not compelling if you own other gaming systems but kids brought up on Nintendo will probably love it. Only Nintendo targets this demographic for some reason and that seems to be working ok for them.
I mean saving money could always be a reason to skip out on something
