• ameancow@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Back when we were a real civilization, we didn’t try to find matches by looking at someone’s photograph, we would have considered that creepy and stupid.

    Why are so many people doing an act that is objectively creepy, stupid and most users hate the entire experience? I haven’t met a single fucking person who enjoys tinder or online matchmaking in general. None. Not men, not women.

    GO THE FUCK OUTSIDE.

    This is distorting all your perceptions of what “attractive” even means. Last schlub I saw whining about this was just a normal-ass dude like my neighbor who has a wife and kids.

    • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Back when we were a real civilization, we didn’t try to find matches by looking at someone’s photograph, we would have considered that creepy and stupid.

      My parents met by getting introduced to each other in what’s effectively an arranged marriage. Well, technically, it was not forced per se, but the village elders and/or their parents pressured it, they show photos, then they were pressured to agree to an arranged meeting, y’all talk to each other. The elders verify your 时辰八字 (some astrology stuff) to verify “compatibility”. Then if y’all like each other, the marriage happens. From what my mother told me, they could refuse, but then their parents / village elders just keep trying to find a new partner for you. Marriage is an expectation. 🤷‍♂️

      This was like 1990’s, Guangdong Province, People’s Republic of China.

      My parents are still trying to do arranged arranged marriage for my older brother (we live in the USA now) because my mother is afraid he wouldn’t find a spouse. He doesn’t seem to care about marriage either.

      As for how my parents relationships are, I don’t think they really “love” each other, they kinda just put up with each other “for the kids”. When they do get in arguments, it can be quite terrifying, especially when I was still in K-12 school.

      There’s like this expectation for you to get married early and have kids. (My older brother is many years older then me, and he’s is approaching 30 years old)

      My reaction to this shit, is: I don’t wanna get married lol. I hate the idea of living with another human being. I never have any desires for romantic relationships. I wanna live and die alone. (And especially, fuck arranged marriages, ain’t doing that shit, rather be single than miserable. Not having one of the most important choices be dictated by parents.)

      (Btw, I’m not even supposed to be born. My mother disobeyed the One Child Policy and gave birth to me)

      • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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        7 months ago

        As someone who is living in a non-arranged marriage, if it turns out well, a relationship can be quite magical.

        It just sucks how dating looks like today, but if it works out, it is worth all of the shit.

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      7 months ago

      because people dont have social skills anymore. COVID really fucked a lot of people up, and when you see what happens to the people who even try to make an attempt, it really turns you off of doing anything, just ever in general. I dont have this problem cuz I kinda lucked out on social skills IRL, even if I suck at it online :p just celebrated my 3rd anniversary https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3rmrml1oNs

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        I say this to everyone out there, this is a “buy the dip” opportunity time for people on a social level. Go adopt a group of poorly-socialized peers and just reinvent socializing from the ground up. No rules, no enforcement, wanna play retro games and get high like teens? How about everyone goes to the horse races even though nobody knows how? Just go buy a couch together, decide who gets it after with a game of chance.

        This is how movements are made. I’m not even kidding, there are TONS of people out there of all walks of life who just want someone to show them how to “social” and are scared of doing something strange and being embarrassed. Everyone is in this deeply isolated headspace hoping someone throws a rope and offers a way out.

        Be a way out. Worst that happens is half of them flame out, you still end up with some people in your life you can talk to and hang out with. If you’re single, maybe you will hit it off with one of them or someone they know, but if not, who cares. It’s still better than being alone.

        None of us get out of this alive.

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          7 months ago

          Yup. Go out and invite people. You’ll be surprised at how many answer the metaphorical or literal call

          I will state, well over half are likely to flame out without considerable effort. Hit rates aren’t that high

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      I agreed with this until I started doing lots of “go outside” stuff and realized there was a bit of nuance. Decided pretty quickly that I’d keep the dating separate from sports/activities because I really enjoy them and things get weird if you treat it like a dating pool. Now I somehow have to work up the courage to talk to someone without a contrived activity bringing us together.

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      When exactly was that “real civilization”? When people were being arranged into marriages? Or when people would put ads into newspapers to find love? Or when dating shows started on TV? The next step after TV was pretty much Tinder. We have never been above using “creepy and stupid” options.

      I don’t get the hate dating apps get. It’s a tool like every other, it helps you meet people outside of your regular circle. It’s not ideal because it’s next to impossible to everything you are into a short profile but it’s better than the solutions we came up before. The issue is that people don’t know how to use Tinder. Most people have no idea what their profile should look like, they put too much importance on any kind of a match and then they try too hard to get anywhere. Tinder match is the real world equivalent of locking your eyes someone on the street or a bar or a cafe or whatever. Just because that happened doesn’t mean anything more will happen. You don’t run after everyone who looks at you begging them to date you. So why do that on Tinder?

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        Millenial here. Never used online dating. Never used arranged marriages. Never used newspapers.

        Dated a bunch. Just met and befriended a lot of people through shared areas of interest. Indoor soccer mixed league / gardening group / dog park / dog events at a local shop.

        I also wasn’t creepy and bothered people with trying to get a relationship from these events. Just a chatty comical person. And with regular attendance - bumped into similar people over time and eventually did more personal shit with them and felt out why.

        Online dating sort of (to me) turns the act of dating into a hobby or even a profession? and then people land these relationships where they expect something out of the other person. “You need a perfect resume with good line spacing and indentation, if you want connection!”

        When I just pursued my hobbies and enjoyment areas and bumped into people who mutually enjoyed those things and would just talk about those things. Like at most seek connection to the things you love and do them with people you like. And then build on those connections. That’s what people really want when they log into profiles.

        Note I don’t have any social media other than Lemmy. Haha.