Are you fucking kidding me.
AOC and Bernie over here amassing entire legions of working class people and they’re over here bashing themselves in the nuts. doing a straw poll with corporate doners pretending like it means fucking ANYTHING.
GODAMNIT THESE FUCKING DEMOCRATS ARE FUCKING MORONS.
Perhaps time for a third party…
We still have three years to go before the next election, assuming one actually happens.
At this stage in the game, the only thing that these types of polls are going to reveal is who has the most name recognition.
In other words, everyone calm down.
Just like the polls that show McDonald’s, Taco Bell, or Chic fil a as America’s favorite restaurant in X state. It doesn’t take too many idiots to outweigh everyone else.
Thank you! Any time this kind of polling shows up on Lemmy, users seem to think this is the Plan of the Democratic Leadership Cabal, rather than an incredibly premature name recognition test.
People want to vote for people they have favorable impressions of who they also think others will vote for. Without other frontrunners, who emerge over time, it’s not surprising that polled Democrats would recognize and still support the candidate that 75 million people voted for five months ago.
If you want other candidates (I do), identify them and figure out how to help them build their profile now.
It’s crazy how fast incredibly premature polling turns into unstoppable freight train that cannot be interrupted by anything but a certified act of God signed and dated with appropriate postage to oh shit oh God what’s happening someone should have planned something.
fucking morons.
people demanding progressives, but no, lets pretend conservative democrats have a fucking chance.
how tone-deaf can you fucking be.
Considering the Democratic Party has done this 3 times in a row and that they refuse to primary wildly unpopular members of their own party.
They are extremely tone deaf and out of touch with what the voters want. It’s why I want the progressives in the party to split off. The progressives are screwed if they stay, so why not leave and have an actual fucking chance?
Bernie Sanders got screwed over by the super delegates who all went for unpopular Hillary Clinton. Imagine how wildly different things would be if he was the Democratic nominee in 2016?
Considering the Democratic Party has done this 3 times in a row and that they refuse to primary wildly unpopular members of their own party.
The primaries are open to anybody who meets the requirements. We don’t have to wait for “the party” to provide us with better candidates. The better candidates just have to follow the process to declare themselves a candidate. And then we just have to show up and vote for them.
Bernie Sanders got screwed over by the super delegates who all went for unpopular Hillary Clinton.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdelegate#2016_election
Sanders initially said that the candidate with the majority of pledged delegates should be the nominee; in May 2016, after falling behind in the elected delegate count, he shifted, pushed for a contested convention and arguing that, “The responsibility that superdelegates have is to decide what is best for this country and what is best for the Democratic Party.”[46][54] Ultimately, Clinton won the nomination without relying on the votes of superdelegates; she led Sanders by a substantial number of elected delegates (from primary and caucus votes), as well by a substantial margin in the popular vote.
Also at the top of that page:
In 2018, the Democratic National Committee reduced the influence of superdelegates by barring them from voting on the first ballot at the Democratic National Convention, allowing them to vote only in a contested convention.
Imagine how wildly different things would be if he was the Democratic nominee in 2016?
It’s sad to think about how much better things could have been, and also if we had had Gore in 2000. But we shouldn’t forget that Clinton won the primaries popular vote by enough that the superdelegates’ votes didn’t matter.
agreed. we have assholes like obama and bill clinton also to blame for sinking bernie in 2016.
they are 100% part of why trump is president right now.
I still feel like Harris had to gave been handicapped on progressive policies from the DNC. There’s simply no way, with her record and history, that she wouldn’t have campaigned on a completely separate platform than Biden unless he, and the DNC forbid it. Now, that brings about a new set of issues; in which she was unable to stand up to the establishment and say, fuck you guys. She used to be pretty progressive in the senate and it all went away with the VP.
Oh a secret progressive, neat. She could have chosen up until the last few days of the election to jettison the zionist garbage messaging from her campaign and choose to win and she didnt. Her campaign had polls showing she’d lose and why. Unless she literally had a gun to her head I dont want to hear how progressive she is.
On top of that she’s married to a zionist and her campaign manager was her husbands brother, also a zionist. If she wants to promise to ditch those two losers from anything relating to politics I’ll consider voting for her, otherwise she can piss right on off in every single other time she runs as well. No more zionists candidates. Reform jewish people are fine, but we need to stop trying to prop up right wing warmongers from whats supposedly the left leaning party.
Jfc. They’ll never learn. We really are all doomed.
Just kidding. We were doomed already.
Honestly I don’t think she should run in 28. Nothing against Kamala, but we really don’t need a moderate centrist insider to bring us back from the damage Trump is doing. The nation would be far better off having a real debate with Pete, Tim, and Alexandria up on stage. Kamala would have too much power over the process, and would use every bit of it. Which of course means that’s exactly what’s going to happen, probably handing us a narrow loss to fucking Don Jr. or some other moron puppet.
Also it’s going to be a cold day in Hell before a woman wins.
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Seriously. This is the thing they do not seem to get. Unfortunately our country is sexist and racist. She will never win.
All true. But also, a popular woman could win, like AOC. They just keep putting up establishment stooges, that’s a large part of the reason why they don’t get elected.
If you don’t want a moderate why would you want Pete anywhere near?
I want him on the stage, doesn’t mean I want him to win. The main problem with Kamala being up there is that she would own the apparatus, the same way Joe and Hillary did. It’s a form of censorship that doesn’t help the debate, and leads to bad results. It leads to weighting them based on their influence, rather than ability, policy, and character.
No they fucking haven’t.
I don’t know who they’re polling to come up with that trash. Dems didn’t turn out for her in 2024 because she had no answers on the economy, and refused to admit Israel was genociding Palestinians, so they sure as shit aren’t going to turn up for her in 2028–if there’s even an election in 2028–when she still won’t have any answers about the economy–which will likely be in full depression territory by then–and all she’ll be able to do with Israel is say, "well, it’s too late, all the Palestinians have been genocided, oh well).
Good god please no. Not again.
Dems right now.
No we fucking didn’t. She can’t win a primary against sanders.
See you in 2032
Yes, things will change in 2032 for sure. You can take that to the bank, jack.
I swear to god if they pull this nonsense again…
A.) this is a joke right? B.) amusing they think there’s gonna be a viable election in 2028
Can’t wait until she loses again to the same dipshit moron she lost to and we’re blamed again for her horrid policy campaign, again.
Things the DNC has learned:
Was this a poll of the DNC or registered Democrats? Asking because ad blocker.
The poll seems to cover Democrats and “Democrat-leaning independents,” so not the DNC.
Exit: can’t find the actual post on Morning Consult yet, but the article features an image where they specify the polled population.
Here’s an idea, maybe field a compelling candidate who can beat Trump?
Crazy I know. I just don’t know where it comes from sometimes.
If Trump is allowed to run again so is Obama. Not sure how everyone feels about that.
I’m okay with that.
She needs to fuck off. Permanently.
