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- Live somewhere that doing so is viable.
That should be any city.
- Be able to afford to live somewhere dense enough.
I became much richer when i moved into the city and sold my car.
Cars are a drain on your money, time, and mental health
OK, those are the solutions for people living in a city center. Commutes are short enough to walk or bike, and for longer trips, there is a bus or tram every five minutes. Got it.
And what would be the solution for those people living outside the city centers? Biking from here to the city is 20km, nearly an hour downhill towards the city, but at least one and a half back up. Busses go every hour, but only Mo-Fr during the core hours. In the evening or on weekends, bus traffic is spotty, to say the least. And Trams, well, we don’t do trams or trains in the country.
Design better cities. End sprawl.
But it’s probably too late for cities already designed to be suburban hell to make any changes that dont involve redesigning and tearing up half the city. I mean, its possible but unlikely in north america at least
So it’s bike, bus, train and walk. I mean, yeah.
Step 5: Get hit by a car while on your bike and wind up with lifelong injuries because your city does not have bike-friendly infrastructure and riding on major roads is essentially a death wish.
Lol, you think horrific injury with permanent loss of limbs stops north americans from driving?
Been living in NYC for (oh no I’m old) many years. No car. No complaints.
People imagine “the city” is all times square on New Year’s Eve but it’s not. The streets are rarely empty, but it’s also almost never shoulder to shoulder dense.
I find the suburban emptiness depressing, personally. I like other people being around.
Mmm’k, I’ll take the bike next time I’ll bring 300kg of concrete from the store…
The problems is not having a car. The problem is taking its car everyday for less than 5km to go to work.
Yes, you can live without any car if you live in a big city (in 30m2 apartment 😝), eat in restaurant, go to cinema, etc… and love this way of living.
But if you want a house, with decent garden, close to nature, then it becomes hard to live without car. Not that you must take your car everyday, I have an electric 50cm3 equivalent bike to go to work.But yeah, when I do the garden and have 3/4m3 of organic waste, it’s hard to evacuate this by bus…
@borokov @veganpizza69
Ironically, your car is destroying the nature you want to be closer to. If you really love nature and the outdoors, using a car to access it is like being a toxic ex-boyfriend who refuses to let go and calls it love.But what’s the alternative?
I’m not talking about the big national parks, which should absolutely have mass transit to shuttle people into it.
But the smaller parks, national/state forests, and public lands? I do a lot of backpacking so I’m regularly at an unnamed trailhead in the middle of my local national forest where we’ve been on dirt roads for the last 45 minutes. There’s not really any feasible way to build public transport to service all of that, and I would very very very much not want them building actual roads for busses or rails for trains.
@Lv_InSaNe_vL
People spread over the earth and into every corner of it except Antarctica, tens of thousands of years before there were cars. Did Genghis Khan have a car? Did Hannibal have a car? Every location you say you can’t get to without a car was settled by Native Americans, for thousands of years, without cars. Cable cars would probably have the lowest environmental impact to move people around a park. #MotoNormativity #CarBrain #FuckCars
