Apparently, some schools in the U.S. didn’t teach phonics until recently (2014).

Did anyone here learn phonics in school?

  • RBWells@lemmy.world
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    19 days ago

    Long after I learned to read. At which point it was just confusing since so many words can’t be ‘sounded out’.

    I learned to read alongside learning to speak, learned it like a language, not like a code, I didn’t really sound things out consciously, it went in the other direction, I recognized words. So by 3 years I could read quite well, and did come by that path to an understanding that the individual letters had sounds.

    Like if you’ve ever seen a little kid learning to write, they start with just scribbles then lines of scribbles then clumps of “letters” then actual words with letters. That is sort of the process I had - books held stories, then I saw there was writing, then my mom read the stories while pointing to the words, then I pretended I could read by memorizing the book, but then just jumped to being able to read. Anything. Like first book was “bears on wheels” but second book was Grendel, and I could read the newspaper, literally think I could understand written language more than spoken.

    So anyway - yes was taught phonics but not taught to read with phonics.

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    20 days ago

    Yes, I think so. I also did Hooked On Phonics with my grandfather before starting kindergarten which meant I could already read by the time we started school. This was in Texas in the early '90s.

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      19 days ago

      Sure your country’s high grammar might be consistent, but the general day-to-day would have influences from other languages that can’t be so neatly categorised, and their pronounciation would differ from region to region

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    19 days ago

    This comment section is reminding me its not normal for me to have maybe a dozen memories from under age 13. I have never even heard of phonics i just know i can read. Idk how i learned to. When i read i just like do it. Its the same as listening it just happens.

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      19 days ago

      What decade though. I did too, but it was the 1980s.

      They got rid of it in many outpaces as a reaction to the Bush admin saying phonics works and arranging to mandate it.

      It was probably the only thing Bush was right about, but common core was not the way to implement it.

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    20 days ago

    I don’t remember ever hearing the word “phonics” except in commercials for Hooked on Phonics

    That said, the concept of phonics was absolutely part of how I learned to read, even though they never outright told us that that was what we were learning.

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    I’m not sure what specifically is meant by phonics. My grandma taught first grade for 30 years, ending around 2000. She said when phonics came in “that’s just teaching reading” and when phonics went out “well, obviously we still have to teach how the alphabet works” and when phonics came in again “eye roll”. So, whatever the school leadership says, my guess is kids are learning phonics.

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      Back in the day, we learned phonics and syllables, and the general proper way to spell, pronounce and enunciate words.

      Today people are lazy, and say shit like ROTFLMFAO, and expect everyone else to know what that letter salad means.

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          20 days ago

          I said back in the day. I was born in 1982, back when people Xeroxed their memes and knew how to spell out things like Rolling On The Floor Laughing My Fucking Ass Off.

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            20 days ago

            Xerox?! In my day we only had those faded-ass mimeographs, stinky sheets of blurry purple letters :P

            …and we learned phonics in Canada in the late 70s.

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              20 days ago

              Ah, we actually had those purple mimeographs in gradeschool! Yep, the quality was shit, but it worked.

              I just figured more people would remember Xerox. 🤷‍♂️

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    19 days ago

    I didn’t, for me it was “Ai, Bee, See, Dee, Eee, Eff, Jee” (except in my local language Danish). My children all learnt phonics in their U.K. school and it’s taught them to read 5x faster I’d say).

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    20 days ago

    I remember one time thinking about how my grandpa didn’t learn this and other related skills as a kid the same way I did in school and so we understand our same language a totally different way, where I saw parts of words, he just saw a whole word.

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    No, while it was known, it was not taught at my schools. My mother hated the entire concept so if they tried she’d likely have raised hell.

    Or just put us somewhere private instead. The much more sensible option lmfao

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      20 days ago

      She hated the concept of… teaching what sounds letters make? Was she a big proponent of cuing, or something else?

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        She disliked a lot of the newer methods of teaching, so I’m guessing she preferred whatever was before that. The only one she named really was the New Math and I’m positive the New Math was pretty old by the time I was taught it. Have you ever watch Lehrer’s song New Math? That’s what I was taught, and if it was new then, it was ancient when I got to it!

        • ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          Oh phonics is the old one (although it’s making a comeback). The “new” one that they’ve been promoting for a couple decades (and have recently realized isn’t very good) is cueing, the one where you just show kids words and encourage them to use context clues to guess what they mean, and hope that they eventually learn to read by doing that. Phonics is the one where you start with letter (and letter group) sounds and learn to sound out words by reading out loud.

          • RebekahWSD@lemmy.world
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            20 days ago

            It was new at the time! Or maybe. While the education I got was pretty good, it was eclectic. I only remember learning math. I picked up language before solid memories form. I also sort of have some brain uh. Problems.

            I liked moving the tens to the ones place. I think these days kids are doing some kind of cube thing? Seems neat!