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H1Bs are fine with coming into the office and won’t put up a fight with any corporate policy….
Yup every time I see H1B I replace it in my head with tech slave. They’re paid, but the deck is so stacked against them they effectively cannot refuse anything. ANYTHING. A well informed H1B worker might score a chance at permanent residency for some of the abuse they suffer. But mostly it’s just years of abuse with very strict rules to get their residency.
I had a shower thought the other day that if more CEOs were shot dead, there’d probably be less Return to Office.
People are sometimes like “oh but violence is bad!” but ignore all the casual harms inflicted on people by capitalism and friends.
They also ignore all the freedom of the lower classes which was won through violence against the upper class.
Nah CEOs will mandate RTO for workers while they themselves stay remote.
So no change?
Yeah, then they lose all their best and brightest who are disappearing off to work on their own things.
All these idiot C-suite trash will wind up holding is a bag of yesterday’s technology, a mass of obsolete infrastructure and a bunch of brands they’ve helped destroy.
Eh… You can run a company without the best or brightest nowadays. Mediocrity gets the job done, mostly.
Start a company and let us know how that works out for you.
Meanwhile Accenture has 1400:1 CEO-to-worker pay ratio.
Fingers and toes crossed, get’em for every last penny!
luck is not gonna help. Only action and organizing can save us. Join a union too.
Oh, I would if I lived in a place which had such movements, believe me… As it is, all I can do is wish for Lady Luck to smile upon those who have the chance! Sure, it’s a bad idea to bank everything on luck, but it can never hurt to have some on your side!
where do you live? The tech workers movement is reaching pretty much everywhere there’s tech production.
Romania. There haven’t been any significant developments in this sense around here, at least not as far as I know. Each company around here has a Wagers’ Rep of sorts and they gather with other such Reps and discuss wage related stuff, but it’s nowhere near as elaborate as a Union, nor has it ever felt significant in any relevant way.
Most people have kinda’… given up on this country. Everyone scrambles to eject themselves abroad as soon as humanly possible. Can’t say I blame’em.
Are you aware that Romanian IT sector has the highest rate of unionization of any IT sector in the world? SITT is a case study studied all over the world. https://transform-network.net/blog/interview/the-romanian-it-workers-labour-union-showed-that-everyone-can/
It might not be the sexiest, most modern radical union, but it is a case of success with numbers to show. Maybe you can start from there.
Huh, I honestly had no idea, thank you! I’ll certainly start looking into it! Perfect timing, too, quit my job so I could focus on trying to get into stuff like this!
I sure hope the fact that it isn’t common knowledge (at least not among most of the people with whom I’ve worked during the past decade) is down to them being effective and not it being a hopeless cause, though… Speaking from personal experience (and I leave room for doubt because I have notoriously bad luck in general), it sure didn’t feel all that grand working in this industry. Not about the work in itself, but the practices…
Pretty much anywhere outside the USA, the communication of tech workers unionizing is pretty much absent and expecially news about it. This is a big deal, but it doesn’t say much about the actual penetration of unions in a given sector. It’s a complex topic, but I explain it with the fact that the topic is pretty much uninteresting, unless it’s a well-known brand is unionizing. Since most famous tech companies are American, there’s enough mass of news there to actually push media outlets to cover news.
In Italy, where there are very few “well-known” IT companies, the topic is completely absent, to the point where IT union organizers from a city don’t know about big wins by other IT unions organizers from another city. Nonetheless the narrative is not the thing, and there can be big impacts that become visible to the general public only after sociological studies.
So, long-story short, the fact you never heard about SITT doesn’t say much about its effectiveness, just about their ability to communicate.
Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives
I’m in management now but I say go get ‘em please.
most management I would assume would be with the workers. If your not c suite your nothing.
Tech is a bit different because a significant portion of your compensation comes as stock when you get higher up the ladder but yeah.
Stock options and grants are a tool to trick you into accepting lower pay and conflating your interests with those of the capital class. (Speaking as someone who has received both!)
Yeah I’m speaking from experience here in that about a third of my pay is in stock.
I wouldn’t say my pay is low though, for what it’s worth.
Software Engineers should get royalties for their code like actors do. I’d be retired already.
most cursed take of the day. This is a terrible system that turns workers in self-entrepreneurs, where most struggle and a few get a lot of money.
nah. as a dev myself, if any of my foss projects gave me anything but grief I would be ahead.
I’ll gladly take royalties over needy upper management and demanding PMs. not to mention the absolute donkeys that are the customers.
“As a dev myself…”
“Users of my code = donkeys”
Logically, where the fuck does this end other than you sucking your own dick? Just write code for yourself and shut up.
Keep in kind I’m using logic to ask a dev…
Why WOULD ANYONE need to hear your opinion if you think EVERYONE else is a donkey?
heeehawee heeeehaawwww!
luckily for you, I’m fluent in jackass.
what’s it matter to you what my opinion is?
They’re fat and lazy enough already. Last thing we need is an SE thinking they sit on IP and the rest of us can fuck off. You write code that others defined and you work WITHIN a system. You are the equivalent of a translator who speaks Spanish. You don’t work magic. Everyone else works in systems we are all asked to consider the business logic beyond simple tasks so fuck off with your snowflakes. I work with so many engineering VPs that you just come off as “special”. You are white gloves special people who demand handling that no one else requests, and for why? Why do you deserve special IP concerns?
Seriously I am tired of engineers being gate keepers while the other two legs of the stool keep this shit together.
Seriously engineers get your shit together as we are all making a product together and you don’t own any more shit then a pm and that’s saying something.
I thought they did not need a union because daddy google was a GOAT
Maybe up until they stopped having “don’t be evil” as their company motto?
