• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    Remember when rational people in 2020 said Biden was too old and did t have it in him to fight fascism?

    And the DNC said the president doesn’t matter (but still had to be Biden) it was about the people they appoint.

    Well, Bidens picks were Smith and Garland, and a bunch of other people who couldn’t get shit accomplished.

    Everyone needs to remember how Biden worked out, because in four years the DNC will want to run someone just like him again. And if they do we’re fucked

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      An election in four years … I like your optimism and I hope you are right.

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        If it makes you feel any better, you’ll likely live long for the DNC to say the same thing against the next 5 Republicans, and maybe even a Dem candidate will get a death bed endorsement from Trump while Eric Trump goes on a rally your with the Dem candidate talking about how much the Republicans have lost their way since 2016…

        Like, after Biden stepped down I told myself I’d vote D matter who like I always have. Because Biden had no shot in hell, and the DNC actually listened and I wanted to communicate that’s all we’ve been begging for.

        But I remember GW, I remember Dick Cheney was the real problem and Lil Bush was just a distraction.

        But Kamala still trotted Liz Cheney around, acted like her dad isn’t the biggest US war criminal in modern history, and tried to act like Trump was solitarily the one responsible. I still voted for her. But it ended up being harder than voting Hillary.

        trump can drop dead as I’m typing this and not a damn thing will change.

        I’ve lived through this series of events before. The vast majority of Americans have.

        It’s going to suck and we’re going to lose ground, but there isn’t a cat wrangler alive that can get republicans to agree and work with themselves.

        They’ll lose the House/Senate in two years. Maybe one, maybe both. But they won’t get anything accomplished and they do t have anyone else to blame to motivate their voters in midterms.

        They’re going to have to eat that they got trump, the House, and Senate, and sure as shit aren’t going to fix what they told voters they’d fix.

        Stop saying the fight is over because neo liberals didn’t get everything they wanted.

        Start working on fighting our own party next primary so we have a chance of getting what America needs. If another neoliberal gets into the general, hold your nose and hope enough other people do too to mitigate damage.

        Regardless of anything that happens, giving up is never going to work.

        Fight every fight like it’s the last, and no matter what happens treat the next one the same. This is what fighting fascism actually looks like, not voting once every four years.

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          Liz Cheney has absolutely nothing to do with Harris losing. According to the polls and everyone I know that voted.

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            I am a perpetual optimist…

            And when looking back at the last 8 years, at least 2016-2020 when the president was fucking up, everyone I’d run into tended to agree.

            Bidens term though when I was upset about anything, I’d either get gaslight that it’s not a problem or the only people agreeing with me never looked past the letter next to Biden’s name when deciding if they should complain about what he was doing.

            So I’m still gonna be complaining about the same shit, I’ll still verbalize what I think will work…

            But in the next four years people are going to act like I’ve done a 180, because the concept of actually holding both parties to an equal standard is that unheard of in America today. People like me still exist, it’s just a whole hell of a lot of us had their final straw when Dems closed rank to protect Bill Clinton lying under oath.

            https://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-clinton-lie-under-oath/

            The 1/3 of the country that doesn’t vote aren’t in the middle of our two parties on any spectrum. They’re looking at the parties on a measure of integrity and trustworthiness. And found both lacking.

            Republicans aren’t going to run someone that meets that standard, so all Dems have to do to win a presidential election is put up the only candidate who meets that standard in a general election. Stop focusing on “better than Republicans” and focus on “good enough for our voters”.

            Yelling at them to vote D doesn’t work, so why not trying to give them what they want? It’s better for all of us anyways.

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      Bullshit. The DNC said nothing. Biden wiped the floor with every other candidate in that primary fair and square. Maybe blame the voters or rather the people who couldn’t be assed to come out.

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        Maybe blame the voters or rather the people who couldn’t be assed to come out.

        Absolutely this.

        Old-ass biden wins primaries because the only people who could be bothered to vote in ANY election that isn’t just the general election, are other old people. They vote for the people most like them, fellow old people…

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        If you are told to vote between a rock and four piles of fresh dog poop you are obviously going to vote for the rock.

        The DNC is at fault for making the voters choose between a rock and four piles of fresh dog poop.

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        It’s chronic with that user. The Boost app allows you to tag usernames and it’s very helpful for tracking bad faith accounts.

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        Because the DNC is not blameless, and while we can’t control Trump or his followers, the DNC is something we (should) have control over. Being critical of the things we have control over is literally the only way to improve them.

        And for the record, DNC != Democrats. The person you are responding to is being critical of the DNC, not democrats. That is a very important distinction.

        Also did you just (fail to) link to the wiki article on FUD as though people might not know what you’re referring to?

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    . “This outcome is not based on the merits or strength of the case against the defendant.”

    We know, but we also know that Trump and his sycophants will use the argument that Trump “won” and it was baseless, political persecution, etc.

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      The way I see this, they are stopping the proceedings so Trump’s AG won’t be able to end them officially, so they might be able to resume in four years.

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      The not prosecuting a sitting president is a shitty policy written to avoid baseless lawsuits and applied to help fascists rise to power.

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    Well, if there was any doubt there is one law for the rich & well connected, and an entirely different law for the ‘plebes’, this put that deep in the ground…

    Someone should go rip that blindfold off of any ‘Blind Justice’ statues, it is just gaslighting at this point.

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    At least it’s a dismissal without prejudice which leaves the door open for charges to be brought back once Trump is no longer in office and as long as the statute of limitation hasn’t run out.

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      leaves the door open for charges to be brought back once Trump is no longer in office

      Assuming his lard-ass lives that long.

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      A glimmer of hope, but at least, of the extremely limited options, this one leaves a shred of hope behind.

      Still fucking awful and a complete condemnation of the justice system in the US, but POC in the States have known that for years, now it’s just whitey getting shown how fucking biased it is to privilege and wealth.

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      I can’t say I’m feeling overly optimistic about anything worthwhile happening with this case after 9 years, when they failed to move forward in nearly 5

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        How is “less than 4” now “nearly 5”?

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      Who’s going to revive a 10 year old political case against an 83 year old that’s retiring from politics? In the US?

        • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          He could. The president can pardon any federal crimes that’s already committed except in cases of impeachment. Gerald Ford pardoned Nixon even tho he was never charged with crimes. Now the constitution never explicitely said they can pardom themselves, but maybe the supreme court would let him.

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          Again, who is going to stop him? The presidential pardon is wide reaching, and no one has ever tried to pardon themselves before so there’s no legal precedent. You think this supreme court is gonna stop him?

          Also, he absolutely can pardon for someone that was dismissed. Nixon got pardoned for something he was never even charged with.