How would you approach persuading a far extreme liberal toward center? What would you set as a realistic goal for a productive discourse? Would it be better attempt to do so in person rather than online?

  • Sundial@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    Might be a good idea to define what you consider an “extreme liberal”. Nowadays, an extreme liberal can often times be used as a label for people advocating for human rights and calling out the bad faith actors while a moderate is someone who says “Hold on, let’s hear out why these people are ethnically cleansing a population. Maybe they make good points”.

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech
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      1 month ago

      In other threads on this platform I’ve been called an “Extreme liberal” for wanting free lunch for schoolchildren. So, I think the title is just kind of applied to “anyone who disagrees with me”

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        1 month ago

        Well, that obviously calls for deprogramming. All the commercials this month inform me you are a radical socialist trying to feed children who don’t deserve it. I think the correct answer is to throw them in labor camps instead so they can earn bread and water. Serves them right for being born poor.

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        1 month ago

        Maybe try advocating for free lunch for white kids only in the future? Makes you seem more reasonable.

        /s

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    1 month ago

    I think giving an example of an extreme liberal would help answer the question. Did you have some public figure in mind? If not, what are some examples of their beliefs that you’re wanting to push them to the center on?

  • Carrolade@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Very simple. You just need to explain how guys like Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos have clearly always had all the best ideas and should be given completely free reign to do anything they want with our country, with no checks whatsoever, for however long they want. This will clearly make all of our lives much, much better in every way.

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    1 month ago

    Firstly, I would say, hey, I respect that you don’t think people should die hungry in the streets. Yup, that’s about it.

  • superkret@feddit.org
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    1 month ago

    deprogram an extreme liberal

    Read Das Kapital to them

    towards center

    They’re already in the “center”

  • BearOfaTime@lemm.ee
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    1 month ago

    Didn’t you post a somewhat opposite yesterday using “Republican”?

    Those two terms aren’t even close to equivalent in this context.

    You need to define what you mean, a LOT. At least start with equivalent labels.

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    1 month ago

    Obviously there are people on the fringes of every ideology. Maybe showing that those people are not helpful to ‘the cause’ and can instead be much more effective if they’re willing to work with others closer to the middle?

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    1 month ago

    Interesting to contrast the votes on this with the other thread about conservatives.

    No problem with extremists as long as they’re our extremists.

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      I have yet to meet an extreme liberal that wanted to declare one of my children inferior to other humans.

      I can’t say the same about conservatives.

      I think most parents will agree that they are looking out for their kids first, and until your platform respects all of my children like they were your own, it gets NO support from me.

    • breadsmasher@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Far left extremism - ending homelessness by taking money from the rich

      Far right extremism - invading a capitol building to block vote counts

      • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
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        1 month ago

        Far left extremism - silencing all opposition, one party, everyone is equal (except those who are more equal of course), corruption, executions, burning of books, and much more.

        If it sounds very similar to right wing extremism, congrats, you’ve discovered a cool fact: all extremism is bad.

        If you think I’m pulling it out of my ass, those things happened in my country when we were under Soviet communist occupation. Also extreme poverty, never seen before or after their occupation.

        • credo@lemmy.world
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          Great, but that’s not what republicans mean when they say “extremist liberal.” Instead they have coopted the term “extremist” so it no longer means anything, except what they want it to, when they want it to.

          That’s what extremists do, gaslight, obstruct and project. It’s all 101 level stuff.