• Ulvain@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    “war is people that know each other but don’t kill each other making people that don’t know each other, kill each other”

    I can’t remember the author, but i love this old quote

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    9 months ago

    Hawkeye: War isn’t Hell. War is war, and Hell is Hell. And of the two, war is a lot worse.

    Father Mulcahy: How do you figure that, Hawkeye?

    Hawkeye: Easy, Father. Tell me, who goes to Hell?

    Father Mulcahy: Sinners, I believe.

    Hawkeye: Exactly. There are no innocent bystanders in Hell. War is chock full of them — little kids, cripples, old ladies. In fact, except for some of the brass, almost everybody involved is an innocent bystander.

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    9 months ago

    i think the real indictment is how we treat people who refuse to participate and die for the profit of the already rich; the government treats them with imprisonment while the rest of us treat them like a coward for standing up for themselves in thoroughly fucked up system…

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    9 months ago

    Kropp, on the other hand, is more philosophical. He reckons that all declarations of war ought to be made into a kind of festival, with entrance tickets and music, like they have at bullfights. Then the ministers and generals of the two countries would have to come into the ring, wearing boxing shorts, and armed with rubber truncheons, and have a go at each other. Whoever is left on his feet, his country is declared the winner. That would be simpler and fairer than things are out here, where the wrong people are fighting each other.

    - All Quiet on the Western Front

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      9 months ago

      Forget that. They need to face the same stakes that they’ve forced millions of other people to face. Deadly force. Put them through the same grueling conditions, and the cost of failure is death.

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        9 months ago

        I assume Kropp was intentionally treating the leaders with more compassion than they treat their citizens.

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    9 months ago

    I don’t really understand this seemingly widespread notion - that is also represented in this comic - that nations “agree” to go to war.

    That is not really how it works most of the time, there is usually an aggressor and a victim. It is usually not two powerful leaders butchering their own country’s population, but rather one powerful leader butchering two countries’ population.

    I know it’s not the point of this comic, but this really, really annoys me.

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      9 months ago

      I think WW1 was kind of like the comic. It was a bunch of squabbling family members who got into a pissing match and then sent their citizens to die. It never would have happened if Gramma Vicky had still been alive!

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        9 months ago

        Sure, but this comic wasn’t made 100 years ago. It reeks of that “they should BOTH stop fighting!” rhetoric, that only benefits aggressors.

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      9 months ago

      I in general agree with what you wrote, but the Israel/Iran brinkmanship does feel a bit like the portrayal in this comic at times. So the comic seems relevant to recent events.

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        9 months ago

        Oh yes, the Middle East is pretty much the reason for my “usually”s and “mostly”s there.

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            9 months ago

            You could say that - they have been up to a few squabbles as of late, kerfuffles even.

            I am sure it is nothing too serious, it will be over as quickly as it started and the region will soon be as peaceful as always.