• capital@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    You risk your own and others situational awareness when you paint everything as a race issue.

    I grew up in Texas in a deep red county.

    They believe abortion is literally the same as killing a healthy 2 year old. Straight up. THAT is the basis for their opposition to abortion, plain and simple.

    You are dumbing down the discourse by being so focused on race.

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      15 days ago

      “This stops them from killing babies” and “This also predominantly affects the group I don’t like” aren’t mutually exclusive ideas

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        15 days ago

        They literally don’t care about skin color here. Not one iota. Murder is murder and this is that (to them).

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          I grew up in Texas in a deep red county.

          In a country notorious for it’s systemic and institutionalized racism, you grew up in a section that votes predominantly for the party that is notoriously racist ( In general, not in comparison to any other party ) and would claim that race has no part in a decision that is known to have racial divides in applicability.

          That might be the greatest feat of mental gymnastics i’ve ever seen, truly.

          On the off-chance you genuinely mean what you say:

          That you and the people you know don’t care about race is laudable, but it doesn’t seem to be broadly applicable to the rest of the state or country ( and in the case of republicans their party )

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            14 days ago

            This shouldn’t be hard to believe.

            These are largely white people voting to stop their largely white neighbors from getting abortions.

            Are you under the impression their position toward abortion would be different if the entire state or country were 100% white? I assure you it would not be. And if that’s true, it cannot be based on race.

            What’s more is this argument that their position on abortion is informed by statistics is laughable. These are low information voters. You seriously think they even know the stats? Why in the world would anyone think that?

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              Are you under the impression their position toward abortion would be different if the entire state or country were 100% white? I assure you it would not be. And if that’s true, it cannot be based on race.

              I’ve no idea, all i was stating is that dismissing race as a part of the decision making process (consciously or unconsciously) in a place known for outcomes based on race could be considered dumbing down the argument.

              What’s more is this argument that their position on abortion is informed by statistics is laughable. These are low information voters. You seriously think they even know the stats? Why in the world would anyone think that?

              Entirely laughable, which is why nobody has claimed this.

              I was saying these people are what makes up the statistics.


              As an entirely made up example:

              “10% of the population don’t like the taste of potatoes” doesn’t mean 10% of the population base their decisions about eating fries on reading the statistics.

              claims such as “All the people i know like potatoes , so potato preference can’t possibly be related to the amount of fries eaten” just doesnt make any sense.


              and to be clear I’m not claiming all positions are race based, just that it’s enough of a factor that pretending it doesn’t have any impact at all is some gold medal mental gymnastics.

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      15 days ago

      It’s both. Unfortunately, a lot of people are incredibly racist without even knowing that they are racists. They are just doing whatever they’ve always been doing, “and now, all of a sudden, that’s racist.” It’s like when people are defending slavery because it was “normal at the time.” It was still racist! It is now and it was then.