Loki Skywalker. Jesus, these parents need a smack
Naming children after the mythical figures of a culture is perfectly acceptable.
True and fair, but what do you think when you hear that someone’s name is Loki (who isn’t from a Scandinavian country)?
“At least they know Thor was, deliberately, a dick”
Something as short as “Skywalker” can’t be copyrighted. You don’t need permission to use a trademark as long as you don’t harm the brand or confuse the customer. Since trademarks are often family names, there are a number of unrelated companies that operate under the same name but in a different business.
Sure, but, also, that it’s an existing brand is simply irrelevant to a personal name. You don’t need to establish that it doesn’t damage the brand, it can even directly damage the brand in fact, it still doesn’t matter because people aren’t products.
He says his son was eventually issued the passport and the family’s vacation is still on.
Sounds to me like someone so the passport office was just being an idiot and when their supervisor looked into it it was resolved.
Government employee makes mistake, other employee corrects mistake, innocent family suffers minor inconvenience. Stay tuned for more.
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Omg, i hope they are all ok. This must have been so traumatizing for all involved. I can’t even
Private corporations tying the hands of governments with copyright BS? If I want to name my daughter Khaleesi Skywalker Gandalf Bethooven SpaceJam that’s none of the governments nor some random corporations business. You can’t trademark a fucking name, wtf is this bullshit? You don’t get to decide what my name is, and you definitely don’t get to hamstring official government agencies in their duties because you’re butthurt about my sharing a name with your fictional character. Go fuck yourselves, disney. You slimy litigious fucks, this is why your brand is sinking.
Yeah, Disney is slimy, but for once this isn’t their doing. Some paper pusher overstepped their boundaries, that’s not on Disney.
This isn’t a rule. Some bureaucrat was mistaken.
The same thing happened to another girl a couple weeks ago.
But it is indicitive of the Anglo-Saxon propensity for bootlicking. /Celtposting
The French do their arguably dumber “you can’t call that thing you made what I call it even though it’s the same recipe, because it wasn’t grown where my ancient relatives made it,” though. Also France’s general xenophobia and owning a bona fide colony way later than the Anglos lol
You’re talking about AOP (Appelation d’Origine Protégée / Protected Origin Naming). It makes senses because protected names are place names. You can’t call any sparkling wine “champagne”. It has to come from Champagne. However, you can call your raw milk cheese “faisselle” even if it wasn’t made in Rians, as faisselle isn’t a place.
Too bad this kid wasn’t born at Skywalker Ranch, then
By that logic, you should object to cheese being labelled as “cheddar” cheese, because that’s a place too and you’ve almost certainly never seen cheese which came from there.
It’s a stupid rule
There is a West Country Farmhouse Cheddar PDO at the European level for cheddar from Cheddar.
It is incredibly stupid that the Passport office thinks that this is a copyright issue, but the parents logic is also baffling…
“We understand that Loki’s middle name is copyrighted, but we have no intention of using it for personal gain."
So you gave a child a name that they themselves won’t be able to use for “personal gain” when they grow up? Acknowledging the inherent limitations of a name like this just sounds like you willfully set your kid up for failure.
Sounds to me like a case of parents treating their child like an accessory. You’re not raising a child, you’re raising a future adult. Maybe don’t give them a legal name that is also a corporate brand name?
I have a somewhat unusual name, that could me male or female. I really didn’t like it growing up. Now i don’t care anymore, moat people call me a wrong name anyway that sounds similar. But damn, growing up i just wanted a normal ass name.
growing up i just wanted a normal ass name.
Now, as an adult, you can name your ass whatever you want!
Well my kid Coca-Cola Disney Unilever Squid is fucked.
Come on, Flying… You knew that the minute you named them Coca-Cola Disney Unilever.
I mean can you just imagine the teasing we would have heard on the playground with “cola”? Everyone knows colas are the lowest soft drink.
TL;DR: he wasn’t denied. He was permitted.
Would that not be trademark infringement, if anything?
He [the father] says his son was eventually issued the passport and the family’s vacation is still on.
Sounds like that office doesn’t know how their own rules work.
This is stupid
So if they name a movie character Jane Doe then are they going to stop Jane Doe from getting a passport
It is stupid, yes, but they wouldn’t be able to do that anyway.
I’m fairly certain that the article is using the wrong term here and the problem is that the name Skywalker is trademarked.
You wouldn’t be able to trademark the name Jane Doe so you wouldn’t be able to prevent someone from using it.
A trademark does not prevent a person from using a term in a non-commercial setting, it does prevent other companies from doing so.
Is this US law, I’m assuming it is because its typically americans that mention legal stuff without saying what country the legal stuff is from
International and UK law are similar in this regard…
Isn’t copyright just for commercial use? Is that different in Britain?
He says his son was eventually issued the passport and the family’s vacation is still on.
Why would you do that to your child? I mean, you wanna change your own name, go for it.
People have been choosing made up names from fiction for hundreds (thousands?) of years and as far I know, no one has died from it yet. Jessica is just a character from a play.
I get the sentiment but “Loki Skywalker” and “Jessica” are far from comparable even if Jessica would have been viewed in the same light 500 years ago.
If Luke hadn’t run from responsibility in tertiary canon it’d be fine but honestly it’s just a bad combination in terms of nominative determinism.
Should have named him Luke. It’s a perfectly normal name, it’d fly under the radar. But youd still have named him after him.
Man, that’s a stupid name. Poor kid permanently tied to a pop culture reference. Two, if the Loki is referring to Marvel. Naming a kid is not an opportunity to express yourself. If you want people to know you like star wars, get a tattoo. Or a bumper sticker. And then I’ll judge you. But leave the kid out of it.
How do you think Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, Jacob etc feel named after made up Bible characters?
All names are made up.
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