“Federal Election Commission records show Stein paid $100,000 in July to a consulting outfit that has worked with Republican campaigns, as well as Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s independent presidential bid. The firm, Accelevate, is operated by Trent Pool. The Intercept reported that he appeared to be part of the mob that breached the grounds of the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6., 2021. The Journal hasn’t independently verified the reporting.”

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      Sort of. She also has some Russian ties.

      While I don’t think she is some kind of Soviet black ops plant, she’s secured funding many times by less savory means. That does mean the things she says and does require a little extra thought though.

      I do wish it wasn’t part of the “assassinate the left, cozy towards center” mentality that democrats are embracing.

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      Yes as much as I don’t like Stein nor will I vote for her I feel the splurge of news on her is mediocre at best and very obviously being paid for.

      She’s not done anything to warrant the scrutiny she literally hasn’t done ANYTHING at all. Why am I hearing about her so much?

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    This is the hilarious tragedy of the Democratic party:

    If the race is close, then the electoral college, courts and other methods can be used to bump things to the GOP (2000).

    If the race isn’t that close, then people will feel comfortable voting third party to “make a statement”, which can cost enough votes in key states to cost the election (2016).

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      I mean, in 2016 Dems still handily won the popular vote, so it was still the electoral college as the ultimate problem, and third parties were only contributing factors.

      In addition to just being a good idea, getting rid of the electoral college would be good because we’d never have to hear about meaningless third-party candidates acting as spoilers. They’d either be real contenders or just narcissists like Jill Stein.

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    Haven’t we all known this about Shill Stein for a very long time, or are we supposed to pretend it’s a big shocking reveal so the leftists can feel better about being duped?

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        On the contrary, many that call themselves leftists have been thoroughly duped. Or they’re all bad faith actors, but I try to never attribute to malice that which can be sufficiently explained by incompetence.

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      Are the democrat candidates not shills themselves?
      That being said, fuck Jill Stein for squandering the Green Party. She needs to go away

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        Who are they shilling for? See, Comrade Stein is shilling for Russia. As we know- there is a connection. But who exactly would the democrats be accused of shilling for?

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          But who exactly would the democrats be accused of shilling for?

          Netanyahu. AIPAC bought two candidates right out in the open. The party welcomes foreign interference against progressives.

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              Yes, you find 14 pages of dead Palestinian infants to be the funniest shit ever. The perpetrator of the ongoing genocide in Gaza bought candidates for you.

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                No, I find your bullshit false accusations to be funny. Especially when it’s backed up by quite a lengthy mod log of removed misinformation and bullshit trolling attempts.

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                  I have no sock puppet accounts. If I Had sockpuppets, my comments would have more upvotes and a lot more genocide supporters would have more downvotes. Only one comment I’ve ever made has been (unjustly in my opinion) removed as misinformation.

                  You’re just mad that I didn’t immediately shut up when you used “hilarious” as a rebuttal. Now you’re responding to my comments multiple times, spouting conspiracy nonsense, and going through my comment history to stalk me into other threads.

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                Look at that! Four upvotes within mere minutes on a completely dead end comment chain! You’re about as authentic as they get bud!

                No amount of suck puppets will make the shit you say appear any less stupid.

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            Israel paid directly for two candidates and committed FARA violations? That’s a big claim buddy. Got any… Evidence?

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              AIPAC paid to defeat Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush. If you want to believe that AIPAC is actually independent of Israel, I can’t make you stop believing absurdities.

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                I know what AIPAC is. Your claim is that they have direct funding from the government of Israel. That’s illegal. You are allowed to set up a lobby group in the US that supports another country as long as the funds are obtained from within the US.

                I know this might come as a shock to you, but there are many jews living in the US that happen to support Israel. You are welcome to set up any lobby group you want. Go ahead and set one up for Lebanon. But FARA is very clear about the source of the funds.

                If youre not familiar with FARA take some time to acquaint your self? Or talk to a lawyer maybe? I don’t know.

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                  Your argument in favor of foreign interests interfering in US elections is essentially “well, it’s perfectly legal, and if you don’t like it, help another foreign interest interfere in US elections.”

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    Decades of shitty democrat policy with hollow platitudes and no action boosts Stein as the preferred candidate.

    Fixed the title

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      How dare people not blindly vote blue no matter who for the 100th time while material conditions worsen. This is the same collective of people bragging about Dick Cheney endorsements, and said Harris doesn’t even need to promise any policy. The threat of Trumpism will continue after the election and future ones.

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      What’s more hollow than the Green Party saying they’ll do all these great things and then never winning office? That’s far less action than what the Democrats have done for the people.

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      No action?

      On behalf of my gay daughter who will be able to marry who she wants to because of Democrats, I just want to say [REDACTED SO I WON’T GET BANNED]. And on behalf of my son, who is trans, [THESE WORDS WOULD ALSO GET ME BANNED].

      Come to think of it, I have Democrats to thank for a return to sane pandemic policies, and Democrats to thank for the Inflation Reduction Act, the most impactful environmental legislation in thirty years. So you can take your “no action” and [NOPE, NOT GONNA SAY IT].

      I’m under no illusion that Democrats are perfect, but they’ve been as effective as possible, given the situation with literal Russian assets on the other side of the aisle, trying as hard as possible to destroy America.

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        On behalf of my gay daughter who will be able to marry who she wants to because of Democrats

        Democratic legislators won’t protect her marriage by codifying Obergefell, just like they refused to codify Roe when they had the chance. Democratic legislators spent decades on half-measures and it had to be decided by the Supreme Court instead. Now that sort of incrementalism is a dead end. SCOTUS works against the people.

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          What part of the last two decades had a filibuster-proof Democratic supermajority in the Senate? I’ll tell you: A two-week span under Obama, during which Ted Kennedy was busily dying in a hospital.

          And what part of the last two decades had sufficient Democratic votes to eliminate or reform the filibuster? I’ll tell you that, too: None.

          Perfect is the enemy of the good. Democrats have been good for my daughter. Republicans are guaranteed, 100%, to be much, much worse. Stop trying to sabotage her future.

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            Stop trying to sabotage her future.

            When the Supreme Court overturns Obergefell, what’s Democrats’ plan to get her rights back? We gave them the necessary majorities to codify both Roe and Obergefell, and they did neither. And I’m not seeing any concrete plans to move the needle back on Roe. Do you suppose there are any for Obergefell?

            When it happens, will you also make excuses for how the party squandered majorities that we gave them?

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        On behalf of your daughter who’s marriage may be under threat because of the Respect for Marriage act from Democrats she may be no better off then before 2012 depending where she lives. What protections have Dems provided for your son other than lip service in the face of republicans passing over 500 anti-trans bills the last several years? The DNC claims to have their backs while denying them affordable housing, livable wages, access to affordable health and mental care. Nothing but lip service from them.

        The first 2 months of US bombs in Gaza had the same environmental impact as burning 150k tons of coal. That war has been going on for nearly 12 months. Out of one side of their mouth they talk about mitigating environmental damage. But their actions tell a different story.

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          You don’t get to speak on behalf of my daughter or my son when you’re working as hard as you possibly can to elect the Republicans who want to destroy their futures.

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              The game you’re playing: “Democrats are imperfect! They haven’t done everything possible to protect your kids! Please pay no attention to the fact that they’ve been hamstrung by the filibuster in the Senate for decades, and a Supreme Court that’s been stacked due to the electoral college giving Republicans two popular-vote losers as president in the span of 16 years. Ignore all that and fight like hell to keep Democrats out of office!”

              You’re fucking transparent, and again, someone fighting to get Republicans elected doesn’t get to speak on behalf of my children.

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                It takes a simple plurality to eliminate the filibuster. They use it as a weapon to prevent legislation they have no intention of passing, just like their rotating villains

                3 of those conservative sitting SCOTUS justices are there because of direct action from Democrats, they HELPED Republicans stack the court

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                  It takes a simple plurality to eliminate the filibuster.

                  Thank you. With that one sentence, you’ve made it clear I never have to take any of your assertions seriously.

                  It takes a majority to invoke the “nuclear option” and override Senate Rule XXII, not a plurality. Given the makeup and structure of the Senate, a plurality that is not also the majority on any given vote is for all intents and purposes impossible.

                  The “nuclear option” for overcoming the filibuster and changing its rules didn’t even exist until Harry Reid came up with the idea in 2013. Before that, it was just a given that the only way to overcome a filibuster was by reaching 60 votes in favor of cloture.

                  Since that time, the Senate has only been either in Republican hands, or in razor-thin majority Democratic hands. There are several Democratic senators from conservative states who are on record since 2013 as opposing ending the filibuster for legislation.

                  That means any attempt to do so for the last ten years would have been a non-starter. And the only way to change that is to elect more Democrats, not fewer. Which you oppose.

                  So like I said, I’m done making the mistake of taking you seriously.

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          On behalf of your daughter who’s marriage may be under threat because of the Respect for Marriage act

          What the fuck are you even talking about?

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      From your post history, I’m going to have to say it looks like you’ve never fixed - or honestly done much of- anything in your life. Political Edgelord is definitely a vibe. In fact, I’m not sure I can find a single example of you improving a discussion on here.

      Weird that you keep posting in the exact same way though. Almost like you’re playing a character rather than being a real person reacting to things.

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        I’ve had many altercations with anticolonialist. He states that he’s been fighting on the streets for communism his whole life. (Highly doubt)

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        I put funny tags on accounts like this so that I can easily identify them. I can’t repeat this account’s tag as I wouldn’t want the operator to feel like I’m attacking their character, but your experience has been mine as well.

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        I tagged this account as a “Right-wing troll/Russian Bot” months ago lol

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    No! Come on, everyone! Third party candidates are what’s best for the country. We aren’t doing this to dilute the vote, we just want to have our voices heard. Sure, everything we are saying is being said by the main two parties, but we also smoke a lot of weed. So, come on, guys, just vote for the Green Party.

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      I vote Green.

      Because I live in a country with an actual proportional representation system, so my vote for a minor party still allows the major party that I most closely align with to gain power