I don’t understand this attitude. If an argument is good, why wouldn’t it be valuable or matter? I think it would benefit people a lot if everyone put more thought and consideration into their arguments, especially in the direction of conveying some original thought that isn’t just a remix of the same tired propaganda style rhetoric everyone’s heard a million times before. “Winning” doesn’t matter, but collaboratively thinking about things with other people matters, and a good way to do that is through argument.
Haaaaf in the baaaag
That’s right, Jay!
No one wins arguments on the internet. There’s too many people that only use fallacies but have no idea that’s what they’re doing. It’s a black hole.
It’s not even about fallacies, most people don’t want to change their opinions, they just want to be right. They don’t care about having a discussion or learning. They’re more interested in fighting and intellectual browbeating than they are opening up to the possibility that they might be wrong or being empathetic and not shaming people over being wrong.
He broke new ground!
Really subverted expectations
I’m clapping because I know what that is!
I applauded it for being different
ah, got this all the time arguing with flat-earthers. Call it the post-nutjob clarity
Most people are lurking, I post it for them so they can see real information or see that there are other people on their side in the case of marginalized groups.
That dude is giving real, “We have Wolverine at home.”
I just wish people were less aggressive when arguing on the internet. It just gets so vitriolic and about winning rather than finding the truth
I also hate when people think “downvote = disagree” when that’s really not what we should be using it for. I never down vote in a debate (unless they get rude or offensive) and I always feel bad when someone comes along and down votes the person I’m arguing with! Now they’re going to think it’s me doing it and get angry!
I pretty much only downvote people if they’re being a dick or seem to be deliberately spreading misinformation. I don’t like “downvote=disagree” because it seems like it helps polarize people.
The second half when someone tries to argue with me in Lemmy comments
I hope it can atleast convince some onlookers. Otherwise it would’nt’ve been useful.