• Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Impossible I’ve been told Joe Biden was the most popular candidate ever and Dems would 100% lose without him.

    Next you’re going to tell me that not supporting Genocide would earn her even more votes.

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      3 months ago

      I’m not sure that anyone claimed Biden was the most popular demograt candidate ever, it’s more that he was the safe choice, and dems have always played it safe…at least until this week where they’ve finally taken a chance on something.

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        Same here. When your choice is between boring, middle of the road corporatists and 100% concentrated evil, it shouldn’t be a tough choice to make.

        That doesn’t mean I’m a fan of Democrats, though. In fact, I farking HATE having to vote Democrat. I’ve hated it for the last 20 years. But I hate the Judge Dredd universe the Republicans want even more. Check out Project 2025. They’re not even trying to be subtle about what they want, anymore.

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        Biden was not safe his polling looked horrible even before he turned out to be a walking skeleton.

        Biden was poised to lose almost all swing states to Trump in the polls. Even deep blue states suddenly turned into battlegrounds because he wants to support Genocide so badly.

        There was nothing safe about Joe Biden unless Democrats think that him winning a 1/1 elections means he has an 100% win rate indefinitely.

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          You’re literally arguing that Joe Biden (who is doing that he can to negotiate a cease fire) would lose to Donald Trump because voters felt Trump would care more about Palestinians than Biden?

          Not everything is about Gaza you know.

          Try to do some level of critical thinking, lest you become a single issue voter and easily manipulated into a future MAGA (fascist) movement.

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            3 months ago

            What is Joe Biden to negotiate a ceasefire? Send bombs for israel to throw on schools? Cover for their Genocide diplomatically?

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      3 months ago

      I must admit that I got scared when Biden noped out of the re-election.

      I’m just glad that Kamala seems to be bringing the unification the dems need.

      Get her the nomination already! And people, people, people, don’t do a Hillary and become complacent. Get out and VOTE!

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        Anybody that feared Biden dropping out needs to re-evaluate the way they look at politics. This has been a long time coming, and has been an inevitability since 2015 when Democrat party leadership decided they could pull a fast one during the primary. Before we even knew Biden would be that incumbent, the shape of this election had already been decided.

        Now that Biden has dropped out, the Democrats have a chance. A lot of future history depends on how well Harris can turn the support for “Literally anyone else” to her advantage.

        Edit: I seem to be getting a lot of downvotes for my objectively correct assessments of politics. Seems to me like y’all are either mad that I was right, or Republicans who are mad that Biden dropped out.

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          Anybody that feared Biden dropping out needs to re-evaluate the way they look at politics.

          In what way?

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            I don’t know. It’s been pretty clear for a while that the traditional Democrat strategy of winning by courting centrists and staying the course has been less and less effective every election. Tapping into enthusiasm for leftist policies and energizing the base to increase turnout has seemed like the better move for a while. That’s what Obama won big on and then completely failed to deliver.

            Staying the course with the “nothing will fundamentally change” candidate was always a path to losing, and after his disastrous policy on Gaza we were in a nosedive.

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        Not a single person voting Democrat does so because they thought Biden was a great candidate.

        It appears nobody has learned anything from Hillary’s loss in 2016.

        Establishment ghouls are not popular Democrats. Conservatives will vote Republican anways, appeasing to the right is worthless.

        Only progressives get independents to vote blue.

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          Not a single person voting Democrat does so because they thought Biden was a great candidate.

          Tell me you’re unaware of his achievements as president without telling me…

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            I am aware Joe Biden is complicit in Genocide and performed like a senile geriatric on CNN.

            Tell me you don’t live in America without telling me.

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              I understand it’s hard to see a whole picture when onde side of a single issue occupies 100% of your brain capacity

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                Some people find it a little hard to ignore Genocide. Good to see the average Democrat has no issue with it and willingly admits it.

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                  Some people find it a little hard to ignore Genocide murdering babies. Good to see the average Democrat has no issue with it and willingly admits it.

                  The same logic and reasoning as conservative single issue anti-choice voters, it’s good that America is healing its divides.

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                    Comparing the need to Genocide brown children to need for abortion is a new low. Blue MAGA in full force.

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          Not a single person voting Democrat does so because they thought Biden was a great candidate.

          This is where you lost me. As if boomer Democrats are not a thing. But let’s keep on reading…

          It appears nobody has learned anything from Hillary’s loss in 2016.

          Lost me again. I don’t know why people keep forgetting about 2020.

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            Biden won marginally because he was marginally better than Hillary and was the Obama guy.

            Bernie would have won by a landslide.

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            It’s unlikely that they forgot about boomer Democrats. Many of us have parents or grandparents who qualify. I can’t think of a single person who told me how great of a candidate Biden was. I don’t remember anyone who was extremely excited by the policies he wanted to enact. Of course I can only talk about people that I met, my friends and family and community.

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              Were it not for Israel, I’d be telling you about how great Biden has been domestically (except the boarder). His administration has by and large been very progressive with the policies it’s enacted. Biden’s abhorrent sucking up to Israel during an active genocide is the huge dark spot on his presidency.

              It is a bit dumb that “he’s too old” is what got him out.

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      “Opposing Israel is political suicide!” — Lemmy literally a week before the presumptive nominee told Netanyahu that the war needs to end.

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        Ah yes, Lemmy the monolith. Lemmy the single person with a single thought. Nevermind that there are many Lemmy instances with very different user bases.