• ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    The DNC pursued a policy of progressive policy to counter Bush.

    Obama won and the party immediately began shifting right. Eight years of pulling away from progressive policy.

    And then Trump won, at which point you saw a leftist presence being entertained again by his midterms.

    So to answer your final question: The record shows victories appear to cause the Democratic Party to move right. Often argued as a result or consequence of any implemented leftist policy. Backlash, if you will, but still.

    • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
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      9 months ago

      Obama won and the party immediately began shifting right. Eight years of pulling away from progressive policy.

      Guess how many years Obama had a Dem House of Representatives and Dem Senate? 2 years. Not 8. Only 2. That’s when we got the ACA though.

      Contrary to how many people talk the president is not a King. The president does not pass laws, Congress does. And Dems need control of all 3 (presidency, house of reps, and Senate) to pass much of anything. So when the lose control, like they lost control for 6 years of Obama’s presidency, they have to reach across the aisle. Do you remember what happened? The GOP shut down the government under Obama.

      Obama had 1 victory and then 3 losses. 1 victory for 2 years and then 3 losses for 6 of his years.

      You want them to not reach across the aisle? Then give Dems victories in all 3 of house of reps, Senate, and presidency.

      (Btw guess how much the Dems have had all 3. They have had it for 4 years out of the last 24 years. That’s right. They basically never have it. Want to include Bill Clinton? Then it’s 6 years of the last 32 years. What to go back further? Then it’s 6 years of the last 44 years. Read that again: 6 years out of the last 44 fucking years. And if you want filibuster proof majority, them it’s 4 MONTHS of the last 44 years. Not 4 years, 4 MONTHS of the last 44 years. You need to readjust what you think are victories.)