Isn’t “women” preferable over both terms? Pretty sure if I used the term “girls” around most women I know they’d find it offensive. But most women I know are between 25 and 50 years old.
Oh, so you only hang out with FEMALES AFTER THEYVE HIT THE WALL AND ARE NO LONGWR VALUABLE AND THEY PROBABLY ARE MANIPULATING YOU WITH THEIR VAGINAS EVEN THOUGH THEIR VAGINAS ARE POINTLESS AFTER 20
(I literally felt gross typing that. Even though the people who genuinely think that way would probably say, like 17, not 20. Yuck.)
I’d say “women” in a professional setting, but among friends I don’t see it as an offensive thing. It’s just an informal or casual thing. I’m a guy, and the group of women often includes my wife. But it’s said in a friendly tone.
I think singular vs plural matters too. I would say “good night girls” to a couple of friends leaving, but not “good night girl” to one friend leaving.
Up until like 7 years ago, the word lacked major misogynistic connotation. It used to be fairly common in certain subsects, including nerds, and it all but died in them. I wonder when “female” will become kosher again. This century is unlikely, given the Tate taint. The evolution of language is fascinating.
My friend, you’re 44 and haven’t learned the art of not giving a fuck what people think of you? Wear that sick trench coat. Worst case scenario, someone laughs at you, and you brighten their day a bit.
Upvoted and I’m technically in agreement with you, but at the end of the day most of us humans are social creatures and how we fit in is, on some level at least, important to us.
I will say though if dressing like a neckbeard is fundamental to who someone is, they should absolutely go for it. But for me, who thinks fedoras (sans modern context) do indeed look cool, that’s not enough to overcome the stigma. It’s all about finding our personal balances, I guess.
I’ll just say, I want to fit in as much as the next guy but if it’s something I really like, nothing gets in the way. This the one area i can safely say, “I come first”, because putting a pirate flag on my bike doesn’t hurt anyone.
Yeah I just gave up on that. I’d rather be an unpopular me than a popular someone else. The world should be different and my friends all feel the same way.
fedoras used to be hella cool. trenches, katanas, all that shit.
I dunno if this was ever true, but I think you’ll find more success the more you lean in, because the more you lean in, the harder it is to take you seriously. pair your trench coat with cargo shorts. wear a flea market xxl silk anime shirt with goku on it, unbuttoned, behind that, you gotta wear a mario or zelda shirt or something. a thinkgeek style of shirt. wear some crocs with the jibbits in em. maybe wear a cool casio watch, a silver one. get a fanny pack, put this in the belt loop of your trench coat. See if you can get a katana around there too. get some coke bottle glasses, some morpheus glasses that just sit on the bridge of your nose too. get some ankle high socks, get a couple cool bracelets, if you’re balding, shave the top, go for a horseshoe shape, grow out your hair, and put it in a ponytail. get your glasses to have a strap.
do all that, and then you’ll wrap back around to being cool, and stylin’. you’ll be hip with the youths.
I think we just realized how overly clinical and dehumanizing it is and it just became an easy tell that that person probably, whether they realize it or not, doesn’t really see women as equally human to men, like women are only the sex characteristics that make them biologically female.
To be clear, im referring to the phenomenon where someone, despite frequently using the word ‘men’, is seemingly only able to refer to women as ‘females’. You almost never see ‘males’ used in that standalone way outside of clinical contexts. So yeah, blame those people for ruining it, not the rest of us for wising up to it.
I use it to distinguish sex and gender. Only some females have to deal with periods and pregnancy, but all women have to deal with social mysogeny. In this context I would use women because it’s a gender issue not a sex issue.
I think it might also be an age thing, if you’re in high school/late teenager and talking about your female peers it’s a neutral sounding term for when “girls” is too casual and “women” makes them seem too old.
When I was young, the more females that joined, the less it happened. DND, MTG, whatever.
They are called girls, you know.
Isn’t “women” preferable over both terms? Pretty sure if I used the term “girls” around most women I know they’d find it offensive. But most women I know are between 25 and 50 years old.
Oh, so you only hang out with FEMALES AFTER THEYVE HIT THE WALL AND ARE NO LONGWR VALUABLE AND THEY PROBABLY ARE MANIPULATING YOU WITH THEIR VAGINAS EVEN THOUGH THEIR VAGINAS ARE POINTLESS AFTER 20
(I literally felt gross typing that. Even though the people who genuinely think that way would probably say, like 17, not 20. Yuck.)
17 is ok if you’re into older girls I guess. /s and also yuck
It’s crazy how wrong it feels typing that, right?
Possibly. They didn’t say how young they were, so I assumed teens, not 30s.
I’d say “women” in a professional setting, but among friends I don’t see it as an offensive thing. It’s just an informal or casual thing. I’m a guy, and the group of women often includes my wife. But it’s said in a friendly tone.
I think singular vs plural matters too. I would say “good night girls” to a couple of friends leaving, but not “good night girl” to one friend leaving.
If you say “boys and girls” that’s ok imo, but saying “men and girls” is probably condescending again
I agree with that amendment. It’s about context just as much as tone and intent.
I always wondered why some nerds (affectionate) use the terms males/females. Maybe they’re copying some science fiction book they read?
Up until like 7 years ago, the word lacked major misogynistic connotation. It used to be fairly common in certain subsects, including nerds, and it all but died in them. I wonder when “female” will become kosher again. This century is unlikely, given the Tate taint. The evolution of language is fascinating.
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My friend, you’re 44 and haven’t learned the art of not giving a fuck what people think of you? Wear that sick trench coat. Worst case scenario, someone laughs at you, and you brighten their day a bit.
Upvoted and I’m technically in agreement with you, but at the end of the day most of us humans are social creatures and how we fit in is, on some level at least, important to us.
I will say though if dressing like a neckbeard is fundamental to who someone is, they should absolutely go for it. But for me, who thinks fedoras (sans modern context) do indeed look cool, that’s not enough to overcome the stigma. It’s all about finding our personal balances, I guess.
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I’ll just say, I want to fit in as much as the next guy but if it’s something I really like, nothing gets in the way. This the one area i can safely say, “I come first”, because putting a pirate flag on my bike doesn’t hurt anyone.
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I hope you just go and enjoy life how you want. Fuck other people. Wear a fedora and swing Satan’s pretending it’s a lightsaber.
We die at the end of our lives, not the people who judge us. Be free.
Yeah I just gave up on that. I’d rather be an unpopular me than a popular someone else. The world should be different and my friends all feel the same way.
Whoa. Just be yourself. It’s ok.
I dunno if this was ever true, but I think you’ll find more success the more you lean in, because the more you lean in, the harder it is to take you seriously. pair your trench coat with cargo shorts. wear a flea market xxl silk anime shirt with goku on it, unbuttoned, behind that, you gotta wear a mario or zelda shirt or something. a thinkgeek style of shirt. wear some crocs with the jibbits in em. maybe wear a cool casio watch, a silver one. get a fanny pack, put this in the belt loop of your trench coat. See if you can get a katana around there too. get some coke bottle glasses, some morpheus glasses that just sit on the bridge of your nose too. get some ankle high socks, get a couple cool bracelets, if you’re balding, shave the top, go for a horseshoe shape, grow out your hair, and put it in a ponytail. get your glasses to have a strap.
do all that, and then you’ll wrap back around to being cool, and stylin’. you’ll be hip with the youths.
I blame the ferengi
But they’ve been around for way longer than seven years no?
I think we just realized how overly clinical and dehumanizing it is and it just became an easy tell that that person probably, whether they realize it or not, doesn’t really see women as equally human to men, like women are only the sex characteristics that make them biologically female.
To be clear, im referring to the phenomenon where someone, despite frequently using the word ‘men’, is seemingly only able to refer to women as ‘females’. You almost never see ‘males’ used in that standalone way outside of clinical contexts. So yeah, blame those people for ruining it, not the rest of us for wising up to it.
Sometimes it’s just a non-native speaker thing
I use it to distinguish sex and gender. Only some females have to deal with periods and pregnancy, but all women have to deal with social mysogeny. In this context I would use women because it’s a gender issue not a sex issue.
I think it might also be an age thing, if you’re in high school/late teenager and talking about your female peers it’s a neutral sounding term for when “girls” is too casual and “women” makes them seem too old.