• Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee
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      8 months ago

      The needs of Israel outweigh the Netanyahu.

      Him trying to doggedly ‘crush’ Hamas (an impossible goal politically) whilst refusing to see the larger picture is an outstanding dereliction of duty to the country as a whole

      The northern border is increasingly heating up with Hezbollah targeting IDF bases directly and with larger ordnance - in a few months it has progressed from lowly ATGMs and 80s tech, to Grad and Burkan rocket artillery. There’s now more frequent attacks on northern towns and settlements because of their increasing firepower brought in

      International condemnation is widespread, your neighbors to the east and south are publicly taking about ‘changes in security treaties’ with Israel and threatening unilateral action, an ICJ judgment that is sustained into war crimes investigations, and top US official and leaders are talking about ‘red lines’ and implicitly threatening continuing US military aid - that’s a big problem.

      Even if you accept the ‘4D chess’ angle that Bibi is dealing with Iran Hamas completely to remove that threat before taking care of Iran Hezbollah, that ignores the global reality that the world, not just the Arab/Islamic world, isn’t going to sit by and let you ignore ~2 million Palestinians, today or tomorrow.

      Israel is totally capable of winning the battle against Hamas, no doubt. But by doing so they will loose the wider war, isolate themselves politically, and make their own survival harder without friendly nations in a rough neighborhood.

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        8 months ago

        Good point, the scale of this military operation is useless considering the goal. Even if hamas is completely removed, another radical group would probably emerge somewhere nearby.

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          Netanyahu only sharpened the resolve of the Palestinian public. He banned peaceful protest, he punished Palestinians for boycotts or asking the UN for help. He sidelined moderates and undermined the PA. When you get rid of moderates and nonviolent protest, you can’t be surprised when people turn to violence.

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              8 months ago

              The 2018-2019 nonviolent protests in Gaza that the Israeli military fired on and killed 226.

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                  8 months ago

                  Israel creates racist apartheid laws and illegally starved Gazans in a blockade and you’re mad that people nonviolently broke some of those laws in an attempt to demand their human rights?

                  Human rights violations and unjust imprisonment of an entire population are not something anyone should be expected to just “obey.” Next you’ll be telling me Jews were breaking laws when they tried to escape the Warsaw ghetto.

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                    8 months ago

                    First of all, Israel left Gaza in 2005. They no longer govern it. In addition, they have been allowing huge amounts of cash flowing into the region and they are even unable to impose a full blockade considering the border with Egypt. If Palestinians are so peace-loving individuals, why the relations with Egpyt are far from ideal, too? Hence why it is mostly Hamas responsible for the situation in Gaza.

                    So yes, a response is fully excepted if members of a different state (that by the way wants to exterminate Israel) illegally cross the border.