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    No, they wouldn’t.

    They would exist outside of our universe (since they created the universe), so the rules of physics in our universe don’t apply to them.

    Even if the reality they existed in had something equivalent to atoms, it would be inaccurate to call those “atoms” since they are in different realities.

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      8 months ago

      I alwas think about “god” as energy itself. wasn’t created not can be destroyed, is everywhere, everytime, all at once. The thing that makes atoms possible. It’s not made of anything

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      Eh that’s inconsistent. An all-powerful being could certainly have self assembled, and assembled the stuff it’s assembled out of.

      If that sounds ridiculous, it is.

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    If we live in a computer simulation, then yes the creator could be made out of atoms. They just need to make a computer that simulates whatever physics they like.

    But in a purely physical world that we understand, I think this question is too hard to answer. If they are in the 4th dimension and being able to manipulate space and time, or even the laws of nature, then anything is possible.

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      If we live in a computer simulation, then yes the creator could be made out of atoms.

      That logic doesn’t work out.

      Your simulation would need to simulate the atoms that we know before it can simulate the world as we know it.

      But then you can’t know what it’s creator is made of - just not from these simulated atoms.

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    Since we have no knowledge about any hypothetical creator there is no way to answer this question.

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    I don’t believe that’s possible, depending on what you mean by “supreme creator.” If you’re talking about the being that created everything we can possibly perceive, witness, or even theorize, then I don’t think so, or at least I don’t think It could have always been composed of atoms.

    If this being created atoms, it would be logically inconsistent to consider this being to have been consisting of what It created. That being said if, this being also created the laws of logic through which we are capable of understanding anything at all, then why not? If these laws of logic did not exist before the creator of these laws of logic, then why would this creator be bound by them?

    TL;DR nobody can possibly answer this question with any grounded certainty whatsoever.

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    8 months ago

    Bob was the first. It was only bob and the universe sized computer. Bob decided that he would simulate a universe with his universe sized computer. Then big bang happened. Now bob is everywhere. Through observation we can infer that he was made out of atoms.

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      8 months ago

      But if we’re created in they’re image, couldn’t that indicate at an atomic or subatomic level?

      What if we cant see God because they’re just a particular string cluster of atomic or subatomic particles?

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        What if we can’t see God because we’re all just a bunch of random synapses firing in some higher beings brain while they’re having a fever dream? After our world “ends” they’re gonna wake up and go “holy shit that was a fucked up dream”

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          Lets keep going. Same scenario but the dream was of an entire universe and the higher being doesnt evem take notice of our existence because in the scheme of the time of our universal existence our enitre planetary life development start tonend isnt even a blip to notice. We are significantly insignificant.

          Until of course we figure out how to break out of the dream/simulation and end up bringing war to the gods to their disbeleif.

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    No. Just like how a baker isn’t made a cake, a creator isn’t made of creation and is uncreated.

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        Not a bad analogy, poor understanding. To the cake all there is is cake, the baker is not made of the same ingredients.

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          Imagine learning cake physics… An aging Bundt cake in a tweed jacket explaining how the fundamental unit of all matter is the crumb…Two cupcakes in lab coats hovering over glowing screens and dials around a particle accelerator that’s just a big ol oven… A tiramisu looking out on the rest of the bakery with a telescope, dreaming of the stars…

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            Yeah because we cannot comprehend a creator who isn’t, just like how a person isn’t made of cake.

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      On the other hand, they also believe that we were created in his image, so perhaps he created atoms because he himself is made of atoms.

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    If we’re talking deities, as in supernatural creator beings, the answer would be yes when they want to be made of atoms and no when they don’t want to be. If they have the power of creation and form reality itself, their nature, both physical and spiritual, would be whatever they choose, right?

    If we’re talking non-infinite mind creating a simulated universe that we live in, then it’s more likely that they are made of something, though it may not be atoms or matter as we understand it. They would presumably occupy some sort of physical universe with laws and something like matter to give it physical properties, but there is no reason to assume that the nature of the universe would resemble our own or follow the same laws. Atoms and other forms of matter that we have in our universe may be a construct of our simulation, rather than a constant truth in all universes. And honestly, their universe may not even be physical at all in the sense that we all understand it. The answer is that we don’t know, have no way to know, and may not even have the capacity to understand even if we were given the answer.

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      8 months ago

      The Christian God follows this quite well, especially with the concept of the Trinity.