• TreadOnMe [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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      The idea of ascribing these things to race at all is extremely silly, since race is a floating social category.

      That said, if we are going to do it, then ascribing the invention of fire to ‘humans’ when it comes out of Homo Erectus is just as much stealing valor as a white person stealing credit for a black persons invention. Species at least has slightly more scientific categorical grounding than race.

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        Species at least has slightly more scientific categorical grounding

        homo species are extremely contentious, no one agrees how many there are. sometimes new samples are given new species names, while some folks put those new grains in an existing heap. like sure OOP’s a bit cheap for that answer but homo erectus is definitely people.

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          I am well aware of that. Hence why it is ‘slightly more scientific’, in that neither one of them are particularly concrete, but there is at least a little more grounding in species arguments.

          My point is that if we are going to assign inventions to race (which is really stupid), then we can definitely assign inventions to different species (which is almost as stupid).

          The entire argument is fucking dumb. It is basically could Batman beat Superman but for racists.

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      We can call them humans, but being that they weren’t homo sapiens, weren’t the same species, I feel kind of weird about calling them black people. Does that make sense?

      (But I should have said “precede homo sapiens” before rather than “precede humanity,” you are correct there)