• alexei_1917 [mirror/your pronouns]@hexbear.net
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      Cat ears squared! Or bear ears, but those are way harder to find than cat ear headphones. If you could find bear ear ones easily, I’d use them. Because bears have the cutest lil ears.


      ⓘ This user is suspected of being a bear. Please report any suspawcious behaviour.

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    Now I’d agree that civilizationally we’ve kind of lost the plot on layers on layers of spreadsheets and nobody left to do the actual thing but having said that, the entire human civilization does actually run on spreadsheets. If you don’t have 8000 guys whose pig job is staring at a computer kind of mopey it all falls apart

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      Humanity on the whole is a cybernetic organism whose neurons are xlsx files being emailed back and forth until QUARTERLY_REPORT(1)(1)_FINAL_V2_Q1.xlsx finally lands in the right spot to move us forward.

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          The thing is that human society has reached a level of complexity that it pretty much requires the existence of multiple spreadsheets and really complicated logistics to just barely keep things working. And it has been largely a good thing, we have a much better capacity to produce and move things around to where people need them. Those logistics make so many people’s lives possible.

          The problem is not that there are spreadsheets to help manage the complexity of the world, but that the spreadsheet has been reified to stand in for the world, and sometimes it’s treated as more real than anything that cannot be quantified and tabulated. That, and that 99% of the spreadsheets are looking at the wrong variables and maximizing the wrong goals (profit)

      • Krem [he/him, they/them]@hexbear.net
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        human history was 50K years of running round hunting and gathering until agriculture allowed for cuneiform to be invented, and then immediately the quarterly report happened. the next 5K years was just refining the formula.

        the ultimate craft awaiting its ultimate practitioner

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      I thought i knew the misery of spreadsheets at my old job. Not once did anybody tell me that the program can only do a certain amount of rows and thats why we only do this report a month at a time and copy paste them together.

      In my new job I’ve seen spreadsheets with 25k plus rows and with columns going into C. As in A-Z is used up so then it uses AA to AZ, went through the B and is into C . These are some crazy big and complicated spreadsheets.

      But they let me work from home 2 days a week and 2 days in an office much closer then my last job was so ill take that, the other day is in the city in a corporate office on the 25th floor of a building which kinda sucks as I’m kinda scared of heights and hate the feeling going up the lift, so I find the most crazy brutal music to get me over that om the lift ride up. I wear hearing aids so it comes in direct via Bluetooth so I’m not bothering others with it

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    I more-or-less believe this completely unironically. I know it doesnt stand to a critical lens, but like… all the people who are apparently worried about AI destroying your job; What do you do??? Every interaction ive had with AI just proves to me ELIZA would pass the turing test, and i dont understand what labor was being done if that can cut it.

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      all the people who are apparently worried about AI destroying your job; What do you do???

      I speak here as the email job guy and the answer is I know things that nobody bothers or can write down and as such is entirely out of reach for an AI to know about.

      The counterquestion here is what does AI solve that a a deterministic approach could not? If humans have no say or weigh in the decision, shit’s easily automated via just standard computer. No need for AI.

      If a human is required, how do you replace them with an AI? What training data do you train the thing on once the world changes and there’s no easily available data on how to handle it left?

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        If a human is required, how do you replace them with an AI? What training data do you train the thing on once the world changes and there’s no easily available data on how to handle it left?

        Maybe its with hubris, but i dont think anthros-in-overalls jobs are economically automatable, even if God parted the clouds and delivered AGI unto the world tomorrow. On the simple basis that an AI & its robot bodies requires a massive industrialized supply chain of expensive, constant inputs, while human labor can be reproduced by fucking & the most “essential” jobs are done at poverty wages already. I dont think the business margins can hold such a wonderful proposition

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          They are trying really hard to get robotic arms and cameras to do our jobs at the factory.

          And it just doesn’t work. The parts are too variable, the robots are too finicky, and a human operator can quickly troubleshoot problems that a robot just completely freezes up on. Human operated machines always outperform, and in the end they add human operators back into their “automated” process to babysit the machine and do quality control on the parts it makes.

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            in the end they add human operators back into their “automated” process to babysit the machine and do quality control on the parts it makes.

            putting the human in the part of the job that humans are objectively bad at. pay close attention, every 1 in 1000 times something bad is going to happen and you’d better catch it! same reason self driving that requires driver intervention is worse than nothing

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            Exactly what i mean, and im not sure the prophesized fully-automated economy will ever occur. The climate is collapsing under from under us, and drone factory supply chains & datacenters are supposed to keep chugging along under the coming blackouts?

            I’ve worked manual labor all my life for sustinence wages, and will continue to do so until my body gives out and i retire to a ditch. There is no possible enshittified robot leased from a tech company that can possibly do my job cheaper, because i repair myself with potatos and troubleshoot myself with homegrown drugs.

    • himeneko [she/her, kit/kit's]@hexbear.net
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      i used to be a junior programmer. LLMs as a technology are really good at two things in coding.

      1. trial and error iterative search based on compile failures.
      2. project timeline acceleration as you do the same work in less time by oneshotting, reducing, automating, or providing documentation sources for code or build systems such as is locked in obscure forums

      as it stands now, there is little reason to hire me now. a lot of what i have experience in is either in 1 or 2 and LLMs can just oneshot those. i may complete tasks in less iterations and carry understanding through, an LLM will iterate so much faster than me that it legitimately reduces headcount. why hire me when meatproxy67 can ask an LLM to do what i used to do.

      there is no reason to hire the same number of programmers as before. everything may be sloppier and crappier now on the internet. that’s okay because the actual value produced is greater despite lowered variable capital. (see constant vs variable capital)