• UmbraVivi [he/him, she/her]@hexbear.net
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    4 days ago

    There is a somewhat popular narrative around the Candace Owens parts of conservatives that goes like “it’s not the left vs the right, it’s the top vs the bottom” or “us vs the Epstein class” or sth stupid like that. The Young Turks are also leaning into it.

    It’s frustrating because you just wanna grab these people by their collar (not Owens, but her followers) and yell at them that that’s what “left vs right” is all about and they’re unknowingly siding with the Epsteinites, but they’re just too politically illiterate. I can genuinely believe that this cartoon is sincere. The problem is these chuds just see it as team sports and not that politics is about, y’know, ideology and values.

    • MarxusMaximus [comrade/them]@hexbear.net
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      When fascists say “It’s not the left vs the right, it’s the top vs the bottom” they mean they want to work only with cishet white male leftists against “the jews who are orchistrating the great replacement”. Like you said, they are completely politically illiterate, so when they say “the bottom” they have a very specific idea of what that looks like and it doesn’t include any bottoms.

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        Hey, some cishet white male leftists are absolutely bottoms.

        Also, with the amount of deprogramming one has to do to oneself to actually be a leftist as a cishet white male, they aren’t going to fall for it unless they were already in the community of Vaush or Haz, if you actually consider them leftists (which idk what they are even up to these days so I really don’t)

        The really worry is the cishet white male progressives that think they are leftist, but have extremely little understanding of any kind of actual historical leftwing theory, and are operating almost entirely through conspiracy theories. The Bernie to Trump voters (there were not statistically that many, but damn are they annoying when you encounter them).