The whole furry thing is creepy as hell. It’s weird. Wanting to have sex with anthropomorphized animals is not a thing that should be normalized.
And it’s even creepier when they add things like “kitten” or showing anthropomorphized animal kids.
And thank you to Unruffled [they/them] / Flatworm7591 @lemmy.dbzer0.com for this sane and reasonable response.
And thanks to recursive_recursion who seems to be an alt of Flatworm for continuing that sane and reasonable response. Note that in over 1,400 comments here I’ve never once said a single word against trans people. Not once.
It really bothers me when people lie about racism. So many people really do experience it so much in life, and lying using false racism accusations as a sword and shield to make other people look bad and make themselves look like the victim is demeaning to every real instance people suffer.
Hopefully one day this person realizes that lying about transphobia for the same reasons does the same thing.
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Seems like the picture was shitposting, but that’s allowed. The post? I don’t think it’s trolling.
Leaving up.
I think they’re sincere, but it’s sorta starting to feel like they’re using this as a soapbox from which to preach intolerance. While not quite as charged as the topic of trans people, a lot of the rhetoric they’re using in here is only one swapped noun away from being a Nigel Farage tweet.
How am I preaching intolerance? If you swap one noun for any thing that any person dislikes or finds creepy with a noun for the ones Hitler or Farage were known to complain the loudest about then of course it becomes something awful.
It seems weird and creepy. That’s my opinion. I’m not saying they should be set on fire. I don’t care what any consenting adults do in their own bedrooms. But it’s become so normalized online, and typically in clearly sexual manners, that it’s starting to feel more like dragging the non-consenting general public into a fetish act.
I don’t understand how someone would term that as intolerance. The world is full of strange fetishes, and they’re typically kept in that private part of people’s lives. There are loads of fetishes consenting adults enjoy with one another that most of the people in here down voting would complain about seeing images of posted regularly (with all genitals covered).
I mean that:
It seems weird and creepy. That’s my opinion. I’m not saying they should be set on fire. I don’t care what any consenting adults do in their own bedrooms. But it’s become so normalized online, and typically in clearly sexual manners, that it’s starting to feel more like dragging the non-consenting general public into a fetish act.
This shit is exactly what people say about queer people online. It’s almost 1:1 the identical rhetoric. “I’m not saying they should be killed, I don’t care what they do in their own homes, but” Please, look back on that and consider if you’re seriously okay with saying this about someone else. Your arguments here are just plain bigotry, but because you feel morally justified in that they’re doing weird sex pervert stuff you’re making the internal distinction that this is okay behavior, even though a quick skim of your post history makes you look like someone who would be right at the front of the pushback if some chud came in to say this about any other "But I think they’re weird, and I’m entitled to my own opinion!!" marginalized group.
So you don’t think people are entitled to have an opinion that something is weird to them personally.
I think that if Karoline Leavitt had said the same thing, you would push back to her rhetoric just as I’m doing here and that trying to make this into an argument over someone’s right to an opinion is an intellectually dishonest way to approach this conversation.
If the topic were people sexually attracted to children making artwork that depicts children characters in sexual way and wearing similar costumes in public, would you be telling someone the same thing?
Yes, we know that having sex with children is very wrong. But some people are sexually attracted to them and can’t control that. Likewise having sex with animals is something we know is very wrong. Saying a drawn character isn’t really an animal and they’d never do that to a real animal seems the exact same situation as those who say drawn sexualized children aren’t real kids and they’d never do that to a real child.
How about if it’s people masturbating in public? I don’t care if they do that in the privacy of their own homes, but it’s not alright to do in the middle of the street. Similarly, wearing gimp costumes, ball gags, and strap-ons while walking down a public street isn’t great either even if those people aren’t exposing their genitalia in public.
Yeah, saying that you don’t think the actions of some people are things they should be doing in public can be twisted if you imaging they’re saying they don’t think people should be being black or gay in public. But that isn’t what’s being said, it’s you trying to be tolerant and accepting to the point where anyone saying doing something in public seems bad leads to you imagining them in a KKK hood holding a torch.
But that isn’t what’s being said, it’s you trying to be tolerant and accepting to the point where anyone saying doing something in public seems bad leads to you imagining them in a KKK hood holding a torch.
Your argument is now to insist that that I’m ‘too woke’. Please, just step back and listen to yourself for a moment. You’re better than this, and you know these arguments are in any other context bullshit. Why is there an exception when you’re the one sincerely saying these horrible things?
You’re taking the exact same rhetoric they use against queers, blacks, trans…es, and just turning it onto a group of people you don’t like. I’m not arguing that this could be extrapolated to you being bigoted against those people, I’m saying that you are literally using the same phrases as they use, just for a different group of people that you personally don’t like.
How about if it’s people masturbating in public?
Are they doing that, though? Because I’m pretty sure you’re just equating wearing a fursuit to be the same as masturbating in public to shore up your argument.
Saying a drawn character isn’t really an animal and they’d never do that to a real animal
Sorry, you edited this bit in: “Won’t someone think of the children!?!” is a tired trope too. “What if children see the pride parade, is that acceptable? What if some man claims they’re trans so they can sneak into the women’s bathroom and peep on your kid while they jerk off in a stall!!” As has been repeatedly explained in this thread, there’s a vast difference between anthro pornography and actual beastiality, much as there’s a difference between lolicon and CSAM.
As has been repeatedly explained in this thread, there’s a vast difference between anthro pornography and actual beastiality, much as there’s a difference between lolicon and CSAM.
Sorry, no. I’m never going to say that drawn or CGI images of kids having sex is alright. It’s not. I don’t care that they’re not real kids, I don’t care that they’re not real animals. It’s creepy and depicting something that’s very not alright.
You’re taking the exact same rhetoric they use against queers, blacks, trans…es, and just turning it onto a group of people you don’t like. I’m not arguing that this could be extrapolated to you being bigoted against those people, I’m saying that you are literally using the same phrases as they use, just for a different group of people that you personally don’t like.
You understand that the reason we have protected groups is because it’s not considered wrong to ever dislike anything any group of people does, right?
There are tons of things that people do that are considered bad, wrong, creepy, or weird. There are an awful lot of humans, so many of those things have many people who enjoy doing those creepy, wrong things. Just because a group of people likes doing a thing doesn’t mean it’s evil intolerance to say that thing creeps you the fuck out. That’s the reason I gave you the examples.
If there were a large group of people who decided they liked to shit their pants, reach their hands down and scoop some up and sit eating it in public, that would be weird and creepy and fucked up. Saying you found it to be that would not be similar to saying you hate Jews.
I hate when people talk on speakerphone or listen to tiktok or whatever they’re doing at full volume in public. A sadly large number of people seem to like doing that. I am intolerant of that thing, because it is annoying. That does not mean I hate black people.
You understand that the reason we have protected groups is because it’s not considered wrong to ever dislike anything any group of people does, right?
… I’m sorry, your argument is now “it’s acceptable to be racist”?
You really might want to rephrase this because I can’t figure out an interpretation of that that’s more flattering for you. This is “I’m entitled to my opinion, librul” being taken to a spectacular extreme, and I’m really hoping it’s just poorly said and not the mask off moment it feels like.
Thanks. I love the irony in people are reporting a post in the “Unpopular Opinion” community for being unpopular.
they actually reported it for being not unpopular
Thought this was !shirtsthatgohard@lemmy.world
I posted it there hence this post
- Being a furry has nothing to do with sex. It’s kinda like cosplaying a character that you make up (it’s called a fursona). Why? Cuz fursonas are cute. Animated stuff and cartoon like stuff is fun! Furry art, fursuits and stuff is art. Art is fun to participate in and/or appreciate.
- Humans are sexual creatures. So many other hobbies are sexualised. Football porn exists, where sexy athletic folk have sex. Is football purely a sexual sport then? No. Absolutely the same applies for furries.
- If an act isn’t harming anyone, it’s none of your business. Some people like eating shit and drinking piss. You might not enjoy it. Being worried about what others are doing in their bedroom (unless it’s non consensual and hurting yourself/society) is absolutely none of your business.
The t-shirt here is obviously a shitpost. Also, don’t mix pedo shit with furries. Straight pedos exist. Is me saying, “ooooh the idea of being a heterosexual is so creepy with people calling each other daddy/mommy. Especially the kind of porn where they fuck kids” appropriate? No, anyone who says something like this is a dumbass.
Hitler loved animals. Are all animal lovers Nazis now? Similarly, a subset of furries are pedos who produce pedo art. Are all furries pedos now? Come on…
The furry community is a place where generally autistic folk, who are also, generally queer come together to be cringey and fun. It’s a safe space, completely separate from the sadness in the world, the politics and such. It’s a place where well, you dress up as a fkin cute animal and do cute, “cringey” stuff without anyone judging you.
When you make weird ass connections like these (like the pedo connection) without actually attempting to understand and learn, you just become someone who hurts other people who just want to exist and do their own thing.
This either makes you:
- an idiot
- someone who deliberately wants to hurt other people for literally no reason.
So not cool. Be better.
Furry ideas aside, this shirt is just a shitpost. I doubt anyone wears this seriously, and I doubt it was made to be taken seriously.
I get that the shirt was posted here as a shit post. But you know there are people in the world, and likely here on the internet, who would wear shirts like this in public, and even more who only don’t because they know they’d be made fun of.
Why do you care what other people want to do? Do you literally have nothing better to do in life?
People form opinions all the time about all sorts of things other people do. If you walk out of the front door and there’s someone in nothing but a cowboy hat, gas mask, diaper, and high heels you are probably going to think something like “that’s really weird” or “that’s creepy” or maybe “I shouldn’t have eaten all of those mushrooms.”
If aliens came to earth would you object to people hooking up with them?
Fetishization of others due to their racial characteristics is generally considered a bad thing. Due to the topic jumping to aliens as a defense seems like that more than anything else.
Wolves and Zebas and the like are already on Earth, and it’s already considered very wrong to have sex with them pretty much everywhere.
Everybody has preferences, it’s not immoral to have different preferences than someone else, fetishizing is harmful when it causes you to stop treating someone like a person and instead treat them as an object.
Because A: there are no actual furries irl to be harmed and B: most of the fandom is actually very invested in who their characters are as people
I think that argument falls flat, I brought up aliens to counter the argument you made next about animals already existing. Because no animals on earth can talk. Furries might have animal characteristics but conceptually they are closer to aliens than animals unless you only care about visuals.
I’m not a furry but I’d 100% wear this shirt in public. it’s hilarious.
Just ordered this shirt
i give OP a year until the furry hater -> furry pipeline kicks in.
At least they aren’t fantasizing about having sex with human. 🤢
It’s completely normal to fantasize about having sex with members of your own species. Like all normal, healthy activities some people take it to extremes and those extremes make it something unhealthy.
Idk about that. Are you sure that isn’t just something perverted humans do?
Ah yes because when I think of my partners I view them as animals not humans roleplaying /s
Well, enjoying porn of roughly human shaped animals and wanting people to dress up in full body animal costumes for sex doesn’t scream that it’s the person you’re imagining fucking.
Ah yes cause we exclusively have sex in those never nude or just tube socks. Ive never even seen a murr suit IRL and i’ve fucked over 100 other furs.
Good for you, you can pick up your trophy at the front desk.
Is the furry thing like absolutely a sexual thing? I always thought some were but I figured many just liked the aesthetic or something.
No. People like to dress up as Batman (cosplay). Some people like to have sex while dressed up as Batman.
Is cosplaying sexual? No.
where r u seeing all this furry porn ?? (asking for a friend)
Just scrolling through reddit /r/all when bored I’d always see at least one image, sometimes several. I’m not saying “porn”, just overtly sexualized anthropomorphized animals.
Running in to those animal people pictures it was extremely unlikely it would be two normal, not overly sexualized characters playing chess or something, but extremely likely to be giant animated animal-girl breasts.
Important to note that reddit and nearly all algorithmic social media measures look time so if you stop scrolling even for a split second when you see something it shows you more of that thing.
Lol, thanks but I definitely didn’t stop scrolling for that shit.
I don’t mind what consenting adults do in their bedroom.
I very much mind when there’s a furries-day-out and they’re encouraging children to hug them for pictures and the like. I don’t know who is behind the mask and that sets off alarm bells for me.
It was odd to go to the zoo and see dozens of furries enjoying watching the caged animals.
I don’t care what consenting adults do with one another either, but the furry art and all of it has become so normalized that things like that happen. People are allowed to have weird sexual fetishes, but having them wear those costumes and play with kids who just see it as cute animal mascots is sketchy as hell, and the leering at zoo animals is just weird.
Like… it’s fine if two grown adults like to cover themselves in mayonnaise and do unusual things to one another with pine cones. But by fine I mean “you’re not hurting anyone, you’re both willing participants, so there’s nothing inherently immoral about it.” I don’t mean fine as in “this is totally sane and normal and you should not feel any sort of shame in it and should celebrate it publicly and hold MayoPiners festivals and introduce kids to your lifestyle.”
The costumes(with some exceptions) are just costumes though, not everyone who has a fursuit is even into the kinky stuff, you seem to be making a lot of assumptions and generalizations. It’s not all sexual.
If anything you might be the one oversexualizing here
How do you tell if someone wearing a fur suit is into the kinky stuff or not? I can’t tell out in public personally.
I’m asking sincerely as I don’t mind furries generally. To each their own and all that! But I do mind when people are involving others in their kink without consent.
Same way you go around assuming most people aren’t wearing vibrators and butt plugs in public, because some definitely do but it’s probably best not to make negative assumptions about people.
Personally though I don’t even mind if people do kink in public so long as on a functional level it’s not noticeable or at risk of making others uncomfortable.
Mm that’s a good point on the wearable sex toys. I’ll make negative assumptions about people wearing those and knowingly involving non-consenting people in the kink though. Even if the other people are unaware. That’s creepy and borders on rape-like tendencies.
It’s directly involving non consenting, unaware, people in their sexual fetish. It’s definitely creepy and not okay.
So does masturbation usually. I think you need a more detailed explanation of what actually makes a thing wrong and where that line is.
I suggested writing CSS last post, this post I suggest an alternative:
- Open UBlock Origin quick menu
- Click the cursor hover icon
- Click on some profile picture
- Fuck with the sliders if you want
- Done
Amazing! No more furries exist on the internet. Like ever. Zero. Well, to you, none. They may still exist, you just probably wouldn’t know it.
Everyone living in isolation in echo chambers of only the things they personally like doesn’t seem like a great plan.
why can’t you just let people be what they want to be? they are not hurting anyone.
I didn’t say they’re not allowed to do whatever they want in the privacy of their own bedrooms. Broadcasting sexual fetishes is weird, though. It’s like loading the default Bluesky feed and seeing someone post about how they’re doing to go stick a cucumber in their bum. Some things are public things it’s fine to discuss anywhere. Some things are private things and generally shouldn’t be blasted out publicly on forums where the age to sign up is 13.
I didn’t say they’re not allowed to anything. I’m not unquestioned ruler of the world. I don’t have the power to let or not let anyone be who they want to be. I do still have the right to be myself, though, and be honest that it seems super creepy and weird.
How’s putting on an animal costume creepy or weird? It’s not like they are fucking in the street.
Just go to a Disney world you’ll see costumed mascots roaming the park, are you going to have a problem with that? Maybe you should look inside and figure out what your problem is.
If you scroll through Reddit, or Bluesky, or many general online discussion centers you’ll see very clearly sexualized pictures of furry characters. The majority of images of those characters I run in to are sexualized, so that’s the impression left about those costumes.
I didn’t spend the last 35 years seeing a community of Disney fans constantly posting images of Mickey Mouse in a tight thong and Goofy staring at it and drooling. If I had then seeing kids going to a social event put on by members of that same community wearing those same costumers would definitely seem weird.
It’s why I compared it to gimp suits. They’re commonly seen as part of enacting a sexual fetish. People are wearing them in the street would seem weird and creepy, even if they weren’t fucking in the street. If they were fucking in the street it would go from creepy and weird to actively committing a crime.
dude, damn near nobody is cumming in their $8000+ fursuit or covering it with lube.
Having a basic low cost gimp suit to get dirty with use and a really nice expensive gimp suit that you keep clean doesn’t make wearing either one in public any less weird.
Except for your argument is dog shit based on your own previous statements in this thread. It would be much more apt to say that we put on our Sunday best when we’re out in public, but when we’re specifically going to play with with each other in private we’re wearing board shorts and tank tops. Almost like there are two completely different types of clothing for different situations. your falsely trying to say they are one in the same thing.
I’m not trying to preach anything, I very definitely do see them as the same thing. Having a different “suit” to keep looking nice and not all matted and caked in bodily fluids doesn’t mean wearing the nice one in public is less creepy. It’s changing into the “sunday best” gimp suit.
If a group of people suddenly decided they liked having wearing gas masks and adult sized baby diapers and roleplaying as babies during sex it would be creepy and weird, and them wearing the same sort of outfit in public even more so regardless of how fancy their public gas masks and diapers look.
Wanting to have sex with animals or anthropomorphized animals in general is creepy. The sexualized art is creepy, the all of it. There is nothing about it I don’t find to be weird and creepy.
What you’re complaining about is seeing actual fetish content on a website. Like, there’s porn and porn-adjacent stuff on the internet? Wowzers! It’s like seeing celebrity pictures in skimpy clothes on the celeb subs, or women in bikinis on Sports Illustrated.
What you need to do is curate your content a bit more, not police others’ preferences.
I’m saying I think being sexually attracted to animals or imaginary animal-human hybrids is weird and creepy, and having lots of sexualized animal art then wearing those costumes in public only makes it worse.
I think it’s mostly just people that are really into beastiality that wish other people were as sexy as their pet(s).
:)
