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I had a video of a newsworthy event a while back that went viral, and I made over 5 grand on it over the course of about 2-3 years when YouTube changed its monetization policy to require like 10k subscribers or something before the creator could monetize.
The video didn’t stop getting views. It had a spike in views just a few weeks ago when something similar happened in the same area. But I haven’t made any money from it in like 8 years.
Reminds me of that woman who made science videos on both YouTube and Pornhub and she makes more money on Pornhub.
If I’m remembering correctly it was more money per view on pornhub but she had significantly more views on YouTube so the total amount per platform was still significantly in YouTube favor.
Still wild that a porn site theoretically pays better than Google.
I have no clue how common adblock is among YouTube users, but there’s probably a bigger chunk of pornhub viewers on mobile.
Pornhub is also in an unique place, given a lot of advertisers won’t advertise there. Pushing prices down, but simultaneously a different set of advertisers can only advertise there. Pushing the price up. I have absolutely no clue whether or not pornhub charge more per ad view than Google ad services on average
Yeh, that’s why I love pornhub. The science is on point.
idk, pornhub brings google into your porn habits, I don’t want to deal with google at all.
Then they removed their ads from all channels below 8,000 hours, right?.. Right?!
No, AFAIK they still push ads on you whether you’re monetized or not.
I know nothing about how YT works. How is 20 million shorts views in 90 days a viable number? That seems ridiculous.
I guess they’ll keep pushing it till the line starts going down.
I used to display Google ad links on my site, they accumulated value - slowly, but Google would only cut a check when you reach $100 worth of ads shown. My earnings approached $100 like an asymptote, halfway there in the first 6 months, 3/4 in the first year, 7/8 in the second year, 15/16 in the third… never did quite reach $100, and so my payout for all my effort and showing of their ads remains to this day $0.
I think it would be super easy for them to fudge the numbers on their side.
And when you have “proof” they fudged their numbers, how exactly do you make the monster pay? It’s definitely a rigged game.
And they will continue to bleed talent for every ounce of value they can, just like the record industry, the movie and tv industry, the book industry, the video game industry, enshitification is an emergent property of a degree of value extraction.
More adds and less money for creators… Where is money going? We all know.
Why do so many people abbreviate adverts/advertisements to “adds”… where is the extra d coming from ?
If you watch adds, advertisers put their D where they want.
I’m with you there. When I see “adds”, I want to know where they’re coming from and who’s going to tank them.
Ads, on the other hand, those I’m content with knowing my adblocker is taking care of it.
On the flip side, I am genuinely curious how much storage and processing time all the AI slop being uploaded is costing them. Some of that stuff is hours long, and like most videos on YouTube, most people aren’t watching it.
Good luck creating content, shittube
I subscribed to YouTube Red back in the day, when that’s what it was called.
Then circa early 2018 they changed the rules for monetisation from the previous 10k lifetime views to 1k subs & 4k watch hours over 12 months. That was when I unsubscribed from Red and installed an ad blocker. I had always been anti ad-blocker because my view was that people creating content deserve to get paid for it. That’s still my view in principle, but the increasing enshittification of the web thanks in no small part to shit like this from Google has meant I weigh the pros & cons differently. YouTube showed me very directly that they don’t care about supporting their creators. So I decided I didn’t want to support them anymore. It’s not like this was the first problem…the whole “where’s the fair use” thing came before that, and many other events besides. But cutting off small creators like that, without even grandfathering in existing creators who had been monetised with that threshold, was the last straw for me.
It was also Google’s fault that I moved from Ad Block Plus, which I chose specifically because of its “acceptable ads” policy (basically: let through ads that aren’t obnoxious), to uBlock Origin, which lacked such a policy, after YouTube tried blocking ad blockers from YouTube, and UBO was quicker to adapt.
That’s twice now that Google’s own actions have directly led to me supporting them less than I used to. This won’t be the third time, but only because I have no more cuts to give.
At this point I’m convinced that yt just hates smaller creators.
Small creators cost youtube more than they earn.
Youtube ads are sold by auction, and there is very little bidding interest in small channels with small audiences. The advertisers want as many eyeballs as possible.
But a small channel’s videos cost youtube the same amount to store as a big channel’s videos.
Jesus who watches this much yt? The only thing I watch are a couple of how to videos a month. It boggles my mind that people watch so much pure crap.
Why I just push Patreon or another platform fuck trying to earn money through YouTube that worthless.
There is peertube as well, but it lacks monetization. And Patreon is not the answer because not many will bother paying each creator separately (it at all). To me subscription sounds like an ideal solution, but of course, not YouTube.
There is peertube as well, but it lacks monetization
It also lacks an audience at any sort of scale.
I publish on both YouTube and peertube. 3-4000 views on youtube, 10-30 on peertube.
Also published on odysee for a while, with similarly 2 digit views.
Nebula exists but I subscribed to it like during COVID with Curiosity Stream bundle, however, I find their UI confusing and content discovery was very hard.
Right. I wish more people who post on YouTube would post also on alternatives such as Nebula. I mean it’s only profit for them, isn’t it?
Nebula tightly currates which creators they accept onto their platform. Nobody who doesn’t already have a long track record of creating and publishing quality videos is going to be accepted.
Which is good for viewers - less slop to wade through. But it’s hard for creators to break into.
What, they are picky? 👀 They could curate the content, not denying it.
A lot of YT creators are moving to OnlyFans.
I’ve seen this, I saw a hard ensure racer with an onlyfans decal on her bike. Her page didn’t have anything sexual on it, I was surprised and relieved.
The end result is that channels will just post twice as much slop to get to those hours and actually human creators give up, meaning YouTube becomes even more sloppified.
As Google intended.
SlopTube powered by Sloople 🤭
What is the best social media platform for niche content creators? I’m thinking of starting a small project for one of my hobbies but I’d hope to make at least enough to pay for my setup (mic, camera, etc.). Is that unrealistic?
What is the best social media platform for niche content creators?
Like it or not, youtube still has the biggest audience and the best discovery algorithm (even with it’s flaws).
And, even with this latest change, still pays better than other platforms.
Actually Nebula pays their creators better.
Sure but how do you get on Nebula?
As far as I know it comes from having an established YouTube presence first.
And they will never stop extracting more value. I just want to prop nebula here, it’s great for creators and there’s a lot of them already on there.
The only thing ‘missing’ is the commenting system, but to me that’s an upgrade.
And if you want comedy, Dropout (formerly College Humor) is a great service that openly encourages you sharing your account with your friends.
