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      To be fair, you too can own a house if you’re willing to settle for what the average house in Russia is like. In-fact you can often get the house for free and only have to pay for the plot.

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        That’s just not true. Most permanently inhabited houses/apartments in Russia are quite well-built and well-insulated because otherwise you wouldn’t make it through the winter. They may be ugly as fuck but you can’t get anything similarly well-built in western europe for less than 100k in the middle of nowhere, and most people can’t really afford that (how are you going to pay the mortgage if you are in the middle of nowhere?)

        If you settle for the “european-quality” home or apartment with more cracks than walls and a slightly leaky roof, sure, you can probably afford it (which I actually plan to do at some point). But most people prefer to rent than to live in a place like that.

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          Most permanently inhabited houses/apartments in Russia are quite well-built and well-insulated because otherwise you wouldn’t make it through the winter

          No they’re not. They’re cold as fuck and heated by a single gas or coal stove in the middle of one room. They can’t afford insulation, and good building materials can’t be shipped to the middle of nowhere.

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            Dude you are talking out of your ass. I have lived in plenty of apartments and houses in middle of nowhere Russia and on average they’re much better built and insulated than even modern houses and apartments in Spain or France (can’t speak for Germany). Besides, almost all apartment blocks even in tiny towns have central heating and not an individual stove, just for efficiency reasons.

            Because, once again, you will fucking freeze to death if your house is not well-insulated and it’s -35 outside.

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              Slave labour doesn’t build better construction. You’re not really a Stalinist are you?

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                Most housing units in Russia are apartments in “Khruschevkas”, built long after Stalin. They look really ugly, and the quality is not amazing but it’s actually pretty good if you renovate it properly. Speaking to a couple people who worked construction during the period (friends of my parents), both of them were quite happy with the salary and benefits back then, and they still live in Khruschevkas they helped to build themselves so that’s kinda nice.

                BTW, “Stalinkas” (apartment blocks built for communal living during Stalin’s time) are actually revered as literally the best housing options in both Moscow and St Petersburg due to thick walls, high ceilings, good floor planning and high-quality building materials. I’m not pro-Stalin, I think he’s the second worst leader of USSR (after Gorbachev). That said the quality of construction was actually pretty good back then, even though there may have been some near-slave-level labor used to build them.

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                how was bulding homes “slave work”? do your propagandized ass know eastern block had best worker rights in entire human history?

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    How do so many people own a home? There’s no way that’s right. How is this being counted? Is this a percentage of adults? Does it take the number of home owners and divide it by the number of adults in the country? Does it count adult children living in their parents homes as “owners”?

    I need to see some methodology.

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    Ah sweet I love these kinds of maps that show which countries are better than others!

    Now do income inequality, life expectancy, and democracy.

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      Now do income inequality, life expectancy, and democracy.

      you can post them, whats your point exactly?