wasn’t that 4chan in general, it’s fun to post far right memes and jokes until the actual far right shows up and doesn’t know the difference
Mostly started very quickly in 2015.
I wonder how hard it is to infiltrate and influence an anonymous message board.
Considering trends are started by a single dedicated schizo I’d say not hard. I’m pretty sure one very dedicated person made fit and beyond believe onions boosted test.
…am I having a stroke? What does that last sentence mean?
Drinking raw onion juice boosts testosterone production apparently*
Are your serious or have you never drawn fit from of root? Lol
Pretty much my trajectory for making Nazi jokes. Used to be fun and edgy when I was younger, but once I found out there were actual Nazis these days, it was horrifying.
I can see why people stick to Roman jokes
Yeaaaah I have a similar story. It’s all fun and games until you realize the other person actually does want to kill jews.
The amount of jews I want to unironically kill is zero.
Yeah, this doesn’t excuse anything, but as a millennial growing up there was this whole trend of “dark humor” and “anti-jokes.” Basically the more fucked up and wrong something was, the funnier it was supposed to be.
That doesn’t make it okay, but we were just stupid teenagers. You could say we shoulda known better, but at the time that was just the trend. Like skibidi toilet and other brainrot today. Everyone knew it wasn’t serious, that no one could actually mean those jokes.
At least, we thought we did. It seems as we grew up, we diverged into two main groups. Those who realized how those “jokes” could actually be harmful and grew out of it, and those who started taking the jokes more and more seriously until they started meaning it and it became part of their personalities.
I think that’s a huge source of disconnect with Gen Z. I don’t think they ever had a concept of dark humor. By the time they reached that age, the trend was more towards acceptance and inclusion, social awareness and non-harmful language. The old “sticks and stones” no longer applied.
So to early Gen Z, late Millennials probably looked like sociopaths. Especially since we were already on social media, and some of that immature bullshit is indelibly marked on the internet.
And you can’t just tell them “it was just a joke, we didn’t mean it, it wasn’t serious” because that’s such an alien concept to them.
motion to make all dumb blonde jokes into dumb nazi jokes
I’d ask what the difference is, but nazis are so rarely as blond as they’d like
That’s why I don’t engage with that stuff. I understand shitposting, but not everyone can tell the difference. Especially if a bot is scraping to train a model or build a profile on users.
This is why the /s is important. It should always be explicitly clear when a post is satire, if being taken seriously could be harmful.
That’s why I hate it when people say “chill, it’s just a shitpost, it’s not that deep.” Like, this is how disinformation spreads…
Poe’s law in action.
Something similar happened to me once, ended up sharing something that I figured was satire and antifa, then it did end up in fact being satire but also nazi. Basically everyone thought it was on their side, correct or not.
Me in 2015 reddit in the_Donald Subreddit thought they were shitposting sarcasm but no. It was a coordinated Russian intelligence campaign to fuck with retarded voters
r/the_donald used to be hilarious. Right up until it became serious.
Me in 2023 learning about tankies through Lemmy.
Me learning about tankies with my father (who isn’t even United-Statian (I refuse to call them Americans, America is an continent.))
Citizens of USA are Americans, but likewise are citizens of Mexico, Honduras and Paraguay
You’re going to confuse Americans who are taught America is two different continents: North and South (difference with the Latin culture).
Since you appear to be from France, I will just point out the hilarious hypocrisy and ignorance of suggesting that North and South America, which are separated by no less than three different tectonic plate boundaries, are the same continent, while living in “Europe”, which hasn’t been tectonically separated from “Asia” for hundreds of millions of years.
You should reflect on that.
Here it is. As I hinted above, conventional continent boundaries are cultural, not scientific. Have a look: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continent#Number
Indeed, though if you actually look at the page for “Europe”, you’ll see that nobody can even agree on where the “cultural” boundary is anymore, because it’s a spectrum. You posted your stupendously condescending comment as if there’s a “right” way to classify continents, and the poor, uneducated citizens of the USA would be so confused at hearing your objectively-correct stance. The way you said it was offensively patronising, and “Europe” has nowhere to talk, because Europe doesn’t rightfully exist in any consistently-delineated way, because the “cultural” nature of “Europe” isn’t some homogeneous block, and the only thing those cultural spectra can agree on is that they don’t agree on the delineation. Anyone using the word “continent” nowadays is wrong, because it’s a dated, arbitrary moniker which serves only to continue Eurocentric cultural hegemony and try to divide humanity. Gatekeeping it and using it as a way to mock hundreds of millions of people, though? That’s just weird
You’re are over interpreting a lot. I was simply expecting some American to come on and say America is two continents because that’s what you are taught, just as Latin culture people are taught it’s one continent. I saw this play before. I’m not saying one is better than the other. By the way, it’s not a Europe thing, UK people are told the same as North Americans, it’s probably its origin. You could try asking for explanations before jumping to the agressive interpretation.
It started that way. Then a large contingent of shit stains showed up not realizing it was a joke and agreed with everything.
There was a moderator coup. Reddit admins deliberately flipped it and immediately started banning anyone going “wait…you’re serious?”
There’s a subreddit called TrumpZone or something like that that I joined because of all the over the top bootlicking memes. It took a few days before I realized that the memes weren’t being posted ironically and the members really were batshit crazy.
Didn’t r/TheDonald start out ironic and then slowly mutate into being unironic.
Same for r/MURICA. Sad case, it used to be really funny.
Same here. I learned about Flat Earthers, and assumed they were sarcastic, like Birds aren’t Real. Took me two years of occasionally coming across their shit to realize they were serious. I was flabbergasted.
That’s when I started to understand how stupid people can be. They can be all the stupid, and in unsettling numbers.
May i introduce you to antivaxxers
and/or sovereign citizens (this venn diagram has a lot of overlap)
I think birds aren’t real is starting to be taken seriously, too.
More like the techbros took inspiration…
I think the birds aren’t real people have it all wrong.
Given the level of technology needed to make anything fly, how are we supposed to believe in the original organic “birds” to begin with?
Clearly it’s just a distraction from the real harsh truth.By Proxy: Brains aren’t real
Yea yea birds aren’t real we all know that. But have you ever gotten really close to a bird? Like close enough to tell if it has dimension? NO. OBVIOUSLY BIRDS ARE FLAT!
This is why in many native cultures they stay away from being sarcastic. They’ve learned that it can be harmful to a society and they have the empathy to not want to make certain people who are out of the loop feel dumb
Wdym by native cultures? I’m from a native culture that is known for our sarcasm in humour, not sure if you mean something else by that.
they mean they make up random shit on the internet because it makes them feel superior to whitey. likely being whitey themselves, but not like those other whiteys who are so sarcastic and cultural destructive, no sir.
This is why i dont like or support shit posting. FAR TOO MANY people simply can not understand.
They said, while participating in a community about 4chan posts.
