Diplomatic relations are not utopian by any stretch. It’s literally this or all out war with Russia.
Diplomatic relations isn’t, but disbanding of militaries and police certainly is. As to how Germany’s diplomatic relationship is lacking, isn’t the only difference with how China is interacting sanctions for the war? If the only option for embargoing oil trade is all out war, I think that is a lack of imagination at play.
Also: I believe that you’re already predetermined to call me names if I don’t give you the answer that you already accepted as the one truth.
Why would I call you names? What would make you think I would?
As you do not wish to discuss this, I can only infer that you might think that Russian annexation of Crimea and Donbas regions is for reasons other than territorial expansion of farmland, industrial centers, and naval ports. I personally do not think there is any justifiable reason for the invasion, even if you believe Ukraine was a 100% Nazi country and the Eastern third of the country was asking for Russia to come liberate them.
if Ukraine accepted the treaty of March 2022, then hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians would still be alive. Also: Russia never wanted to annex the whole of Ukraine.
If Russia had held to the Budapest Memorandum, thousands of Ukranians and Russians would still be alive. Ukraine would also have lost a third of their territory and been weakened against follow up hostilities with no binding guarantees of lasting peace.
Again: I reject the premise. Russia never wanted to annex Ukraine.
Just like you reject the premise that Russia would annex all of Ukraine if given the chance, I reject the premise that Russia wants to stop at liberating ethnic Russians living in Donbas and Crimea. I believe it far more likely that Putin would like to strengthen Russia by reconquering the former Soviet bloc and restoring national empire as his legacy.
I believe there is a goal of Greater Russia the same way China annexed Nepal, and the same early I believe there is a goal of Greater Israel in Syria. Both countries would happily annex their neighbors, especially as buffer zones against nearby “hostile” neighbors.
Diplomatic relations isn’t, but disbanding of militaries and police certainly is. As to how Germany’s diplomatic relationship is lacking, isn’t the only difference with how China is interacting sanctions for the war? If the only option for embargoing oil trade is all out war, I think that is a lack of imagination at play.
Why would I call you names? What would make you think I would?
As you do not wish to discuss this, I can only infer that you might think that Russian annexation of Crimea and Donbas regions is for reasons other than territorial expansion of farmland, industrial centers, and naval ports. I personally do not think there is any justifiable reason for the invasion, even if you believe Ukraine was a 100% Nazi country and the Eastern third of the country was asking for Russia to come liberate them.
If Russia had held to the Budapest Memorandum, thousands of Ukranians and Russians would still be alive. Ukraine would also have lost a third of their territory and been weakened against follow up hostilities with no binding guarantees of lasting peace.
Just like you reject the premise that Russia would annex all of Ukraine if given the chance, I reject the premise that Russia wants to stop at liberating ethnic Russians living in Donbas and Crimea. I believe it far more likely that Putin would like to strengthen Russia by reconquering the former Soviet bloc and restoring national empire as his legacy.
I believe there is a goal of Greater Russia the same way China annexed Nepal, and the same early I believe there is a goal of Greater Israel in Syria. Both countries would happily annex their neighbors, especially as buffer zones against nearby “hostile” neighbors.