How did palestine earn the right to the land? Is it because they were living there first before they were kicked out? In that case, I’m unsure how this is different from Zionists claiming that they were there first, or any other group of people who ever lived in the region?
Because Palestinians are the native inhabitants of that land. Unlike Zionists there was never a mass expulsion by “Arabs”, rather just an organic cultural shift.
Because the Zionist entity is a colonial project and Palestine isn’t. The colonization is currently ongoing and shouldn’t occur. Furthermore, Zionists claim they were indigenous thousands of years ago, whereas Palestinian victims of the Nakba are currently still alive. Surely that lends more authority to who the land belongs to. Zionists also claim that all Jews worldwide, except perhaps Ethiopians, have a right to expel Palestinians from the area, even if they’re a Yiddish speaking Jew from Brooklyn.
I definitely agree with you that Palestinians have more of a “right” than Zionists to live in the area. I’m just taking issue with your original comment implying that land should be divided according to what group has the “right” to live there, since as an internationalist I believe in freedom of movement.
People can exert self-determination over where they live without necessarily expelling or displacing anyone else. That’s all I mean. People can coexist together in an area and mutually control that area. A main issue in the world today is imperialism by western powers. Israel is a major culprit of this. Self-determination in this sense often means the ability for a people to control their own political, economic, social, etc formation without the external threat of imperialism. Vietnam wanted to be rid of French influence, various socialist movements of Latin America wanted to be rid of the CIA, and Palestine today wishes to be rid of the US and Zionist interference.
Yes the land rightfully belongs to Palestine. No, this isn’t the same thing zionists claim.
How did palestine earn the right to the land? Is it because they were living there first before they were kicked out? In that case, I’m unsure how this is different from Zionists claiming that they were there first, or any other group of people who ever lived in the region?
Because Palestinians are the native inhabitants of that land. Unlike Zionists there was never a mass expulsion by “Arabs”, rather just an organic cultural shift.
Because the Zionist entity is a colonial project and Palestine isn’t. The colonization is currently ongoing and shouldn’t occur. Furthermore, Zionists claim they were indigenous thousands of years ago, whereas Palestinian victims of the Nakba are currently still alive. Surely that lends more authority to who the land belongs to. Zionists also claim that all Jews worldwide, except perhaps Ethiopians, have a right to expel Palestinians from the area, even if they’re a Yiddish speaking Jew from Brooklyn.
I definitely agree with you that Palestinians have more of a “right” than Zionists to live in the area. I’m just taking issue with your original comment implying that land should be divided according to what group has the “right” to live there, since as an internationalist I believe in freedom of movement.
Zionists don’t deserve that.
What you’re talking about isn’t mutually exclusive though
how so?
People can exert self-determination over where they live without necessarily expelling or displacing anyone else. That’s all I mean. People can coexist together in an area and mutually control that area. A main issue in the world today is imperialism by western powers. Israel is a major culprit of this. Self-determination in this sense often means the ability for a people to control their own political, economic, social, etc formation without the external threat of imperialism. Vietnam wanted to be rid of French influence, various socialist movements of Latin America wanted to be rid of the CIA, and Palestine today wishes to be rid of the US and Zionist interference.
Ah I see, I guess we don’t really disagree then, thanks