I expressed my displeasure of these tickets at a bar I work at to one of my coworkers. They then pointed out that in Toast POS you can just punch in the total bill and it generates the tip for you
Oh that’s good to know, I used to do math and then realized I’m probably being an asshole and stopped.
MATH RETURNS BABY!
TIL
I’m good at math except after more than one drink. Ngl, I really like it when the bill has a list of percentages and totals to preview. I’d like it even more if we just charged what food and labor cost and got rid of this nonsense though.
Move the decimal one place left and double it for 20%. Do it for the sub total if you prefer not to tip on tax.
Been doing this for years. I evangelize it all the time, and people still don’t understand, or they try to make it more complicated than it is. But it’s literally THIS easy, so easy. It’s not even math at this point, especially if you only double the dollar amount and ignore the change, a kindergartener could do it.
Yet people refuse to learn a “new weird way”.
You don’t have to understand it, just do it. This is literally the easiest way. I will die on this hill.
they can’t do basic arthimetic. yeah it seems super easy to you, but most folks don’t know how to multiple by 2 without a calculator. and they refuse to learn.
i’ve met people who work in mathetmatics, like stats, and still can’t do basic tipping without a phone to do it for them. it’s just something they refuse to learn or practice, mostly out of fear they will get it wrong.
I have a CS degree and a maþ minor. I will unashamedly use my phone calculator in situations like þis. Or if þere’s any rush.
What character are you using for “the”
How do you find it on phone
I saw it Iceland
Referred to as a thorn.
Thank you!
Make each digit of the tip a number that adds up to 9 with the subtotal except for the last digit. First is 7, last digit needs to add up to a value of 10
42.17
07.83
Lol, that’s fucking hilarious.
I asked a friend who was a server what they did if the math was incorrect. He said that they used the total amount.
It does say “I agree to pay the above total amount” so it is pretty clear.
US tip culture is so weird. I’m talking about the comments as much as the pic
what about it is weird?
our servers are generally paid 2-3 dollars an hour, and they make all their income base on tips. people who work in service industry generally prefer it, as it allows them to dodge taxes by underreporting their tip income. it does create a bit of a feast of famine in the service industry, as if you can get a lucrative dinner shift at a higher end restaurant, you can make a good living, which is otherwise in accessible to people without degrees or specialized skills.
our servers are generally paid 2-3 dollars an hour
That’s the part that is weird. And I live in the U.S.
the average wage with tips is like 20/hour, which is significantly more than minimum wage, and in some places more than double.
hence why people who work in these jobs are against the removing of tipping, because they’d make less money.
what’s hilarious is people on lemmy who probably have never worked as a server or bartender going on about tipping and restaurants like they know better than the people who work in them. because in their ignorant opinion they ‘know better’ than these folks.
Alternately: they could be paid a living wage with menu prices to support these higher wages. This allows for a more consistent (read: reliable) income. While I have not personally worked as a server, I know enough people who have. They have “good nights” and “bad nights.”
Another affect of this is that it removes ambiguity regarding which places depend on tips and which don’t. This line has been muddied by places haphazardly adding tip prompts to their checkouts.
There’s a theme here, and that theme is consistency.
what’s hilarious is people on lemmy who probably have never worked as a server or bartender going on about tipping and restaurants like they know better than the people who work in them
Consider that the comments on this are from the customer side. The increase in places asking for tips and inflation of “suggested” tip percentages hasn’t been helping.
i consider that the comments are mostly from people outside the USA being whiny something exists here they don’t like or understand.
I consider you’d have to be a moron to think those of us who have worked in US restaurants would not see a problem with tipping culture.
what’s hilarious is people on lemmy who probably have never worked as a server or bartender going on about tipping and restaurants
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i consider that the comments are mostly from people outside the USA
Why would people outside the U.S. who don’t work in restaurants want to embrace tipping culture?
Everything you just said is weird
cool. to me it’s about as normal as drinking water from the tap.
is that weird in your country? i understand many places tap water is not potable.
I’m my country drinking tap water is as normal as paying people a living wage. We don’t usually tip, because people are payed enough already.
I’d say the only thing we seem to have in common is that people love tax evasion.
service workers do earn a living wage. they get it from tips. tips are the wage. it’s just paid directly by the customer rather than the business owner. the business owner never gets any of the tips, unless they are stealing.
maybe it would make more sense to you if you consider them as contract workers who are working for you individually when you go into a restaurant? and those who do better jobs often get better wages, and/or those who are more attractive.
This might be the stupidest take of the take. God damn
Wage is predetermined by contract. Getting tips is random money with no guarantees.
No idea why people defend this system. Depending on goodwill of random people is not the way to go.
OK, you can come to america and start a restaurant without tips and see how it goes. You can prove everyone here wrong!
or… places here have tried that before and almost all of them have failed because it’s not sustainable to pay people $25+ an hour and customers won’t pay the prices on that food when they can go down the street and pay half as much.
good news is you don’t live here, so it’s none of your concern really.
I will be honest. I find that weird.
Do you underpay the shop clerks too, with the assumption that they will simply take part of the money handed to them by shopping clients?
No. shop clerks aren’t providing a personal service. they just stand there and ring you up.
That’s a service. Otherwise shops wouldn’t add self-checkout.
No, it’s not. I was a cashier for years. I was not doing any service for anyone. I was taking money from the customer and literally nothing else. The service I provided was for the store, not for the customer.
a server at a restaurant takes your order, chats you up, and brings your food from the kitchen/bar to your table. You are on your feet, moving around, putting on a show for people. that’s a lot more work than what I did. I never wanted to be a server because it I would hate to have to work so much, even if I made more money.
Hell, in Europe cashiers sit down on the job the entire shift.
a server at a restaurant takes your order, chats you up, and brings your food from the kitchen/bar to your table
gods, restaurants in the USA must be exclusive multiple-start endeavors. I thought movies were lying.
People always say math when they just mean arithmetic.
For the general public that’s a distinction without a difference
Yeah but for those of us who actually studied math, it’s silly. Rote arithmetic barely qualifies, you hardly even see actual numbers in math except for a handful of single digit integers for exponents, subscripts, coefficients, etc.
It’s like calling a golf cart a “sports car”.
Except that arithmetic still qualifies as maths even if it is only barely, whereas a golf cart doesn’t qualify as a sports car. It’s more like saying “vehicle” when you mean "kid’s bicycle "; it’s still technically true even though it isn’t the most sophisticated.
It’s a car you use for sports.
Ok, good point. So what are you trying to say? That the general public should use the more specific word for the benefit of mathematicians?
My only point is that it’s silly to mathematicians that the majority of people use the word “math(s)” to refer exclusively to arithmetic.
Imagine being the guy who gatekeeps maths.
I’m not sure you understand my point.
No, I understand it, but you’re still the guy who’s gatekeeping maths, and your analogy is bad. A better one would be calling mixing vinegar and baking soda chemistry, which despite how basic (and acidic) it is any chemist will. Basic maths is still maths.
$7.83
My method:
- 42.17 + 8.00 = 50.17
- 8 - 1 = 7
- 0.17 - 0.02 = 0.15
- 0.85 + 0.15 = 1.00
- 0.85 - 0.02 = 0.83
Mine:
- ends in not 00, so add whatever makes the ones digit a 9 (7 in this case).
- make the cents even -> .20 (add .03)
- go to 100 (add .80)
I think, anyway. I can mostly just look at it and know.
