here is the link, its locked by the way beware of the quasi-fascists that are the western europeans
edit: its really easy to attract the islamophobes in this chat
here is the link, its locked by the way beware of the quasi-fascists that are the western europeans
edit: its really easy to attract the islamophobes in this chat
ok look i literally do not give a fuck what is offensive to your religion, drawing a picture of some guy is not immoral and anyone who suggests that it is can eat my entire ass
i dont care if you’re religious, but that apathy ends the second you start asking me to follow your dumb fucking religion’s dumb fucking rules. fuck off
Carrying around a picture of a butchered steer isn’t immoral but it would upset some people. Carrying one around and showing it to everyone just because you’re upset that people are vegan would be kind of a dick move.
Veganism is a set of beliefs and practices based around a shared moral and ideological belief, so yes, it is a religion.
And yes, running around with a picture that you know will upset people for the explicit purpose of upsetting people is exactly the same.
>libs trying to argue marxism or science is a religion
So, coming from an anthropology perspective - Lots of things are religions. It’s not a big deal. Chicago School economics is a religion. Liberal economics is a religion. Marxism, scientific or not, is a religion. “The Revolution” is an eschatological conflict at the end of history, at once immanent in our lives yet also constantly occupying the horizon of time.
Something being a religion doesn’t comment on it’s moral qualities or truth value or whatever, it’s just a descriptive term. And Veganism, with it’s distinctive beliefs, moral code, dietary restrictions, cultural markers, etc etc etc, counts.
eat shit, dumbfuck
Compelling argument but no.
killing an animal has a victim, drawing a picture of muhammad has no victim
and veganism isnt a fucking religion, you’re a dumb piece of shit
Post hog
If the downvotes aren’t enough of a hint, chill tf out.
Much like drawing the Prophet, while it doesn’t physically harm anyone, it’s disrespectful and counterproductive.
Lmao bro is this how you treat trans comrades as well? it’s super easy to respect a muslim’s desire to not depict the prophet because it’s disrespectful, much like it’s easy to use someone’s preferred pronouns. imagine respecting people lmao
What kind of consistency is this idea based on? That whenever someone holds someone else in high esteem you have to respect that? So by this logic could Trump supporters call you bigoted for drawing mean pictures of Trump?
There’s not hundreds of years of cultural context built up around the idea of artistically depicting Trump, this isn’t even remotely a fair example.
fuck off, being trans is not a fucking religion. eat shit
Being religious precludes you from basic respect
-this clown i guess
no, but i do not respect religious rules and i absolutely never will and should not be expected to.
Listen man I’m not a believer either, i’m not saying you should be following any religious doctrine. I’m just saying there’s no material difference between respecting someone’s cultural or religious sensibilities. You’re alienating religious comrades for what seems to be no reason other than an imagined, arbitrary distinction between religion and any other way of life.
I could use your same logic to say that i should be able to use the n word because i arbitrarily decided that the set of social rules around why i shouldn’t don’t apply to me, and i shouldn’t be expected to follow them.
Drawing a mean picture of a Muslim is islamophobic. Respect Muslims of course. But raping a child, advocating slavery, etc. This does preclude you from respect and no one else can save you from that.
It is clear that your outlook on Islam and Mohammed isn’t based on a wide breadth of knowledge on the subject, which isn’t particularly surprising or unique. This is okay though, because I’ve been noticing that there has been a concerted effort from some Muslim users on this site to try to reach out and inform comrades about misconceptions like what you’ve mentioned here. I saw a post by u/Saif, moderator of the new c/islam, regarding another user’s perception of Aisha (“raping a child”) that might clear that up, for instance.
Civility at the expense of accomplishing something real is bullshit, but man, you’re not going to get very far with very many people if you’re just an outright asshole.
Do you understand how traumatic it is to grow up in an environment ruled, socially and legally, by religion? It’s fucking horrifying. And then to see people who are supposed to be supporting you calling you racist, a chud, an asshole, etc for daring to suggest that religion shouldn’t control the life of a non-religious person? That’s terrifying too. I’m lashing out because this is truly a terrible, disgusting thing that people here are thoughtlessly supporting.
yes, the evil muslims are preventing you from drawing muhammad which is something that non-religious people normally want to do on a regular basis
He is from Alamaba, famous islamic state
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Yes, except christian instead. You realize christianity and islam are almost precisely the same fucking thing, right? Muslims believe in jesus for fucks sake. Pretending they are significantly different in any meaningful way aside from that one happened to be largely the victor over recent history is incredibly ignorant.
Bit of an oversimplification there
Not really. They believe 99% of the same things, follow 99% of the same rules, and result in 99% of the same outcomes when they dominate society.
The only American colonies that didn’t start indian wars did so because of their quaker convictions. I dont think the issue is abrahamic religion so much as what being in power tends to do to a group
most muslims arent preventing anyone from doing anything
looks like asking to not draw Muhammad is to much for cringe zoners like you
asking me to follow religious rules is absolutely too much, yes.
so if a japanese asks you to take of your shoes when entering his home, are you gonna call him an asshole too, to you basic decency is opression, and you want anyone from the global southto call you a comrade, radlib
What does taking your shoes off when entering someone’s home has to do with their race? Why would you keep your shoes on, unless specifically asked in the first place?
because its a respect thing (japanese tradition) just like not drawing muhammad is for muslims
thats about cleanliness not religion, you people are fucking stupid
its a traditions you dense idiot, stop being such a western chauvinist and accept not everyone country is a parasitic imperialist country based in western supremacy