• pageflight@piefed.social
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    10 days ago

    A broad ban on any 3D printer doing gun-like things seems dumb (if not dangerous), much like broad censorship of and pictures of kids or pornography would be to stop CSAM.

    But specifically making operations like Cody Wilson’s Defense Distributed illegal seems appropriate. The US has a bigger problem with unregulated firearms and gun violence than with technical over regulation, so if we have to sacrifice a little that seems acceptable.

    I think AI and drones are interesting comparisons here. Regulation seems to have way over-reacted to drones (we could just ban and impose heavy penalties for flying anywhere near planes), and AI / big tech are running wild in unregulated territory.

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    Putting the responsibility on the 3D printer manufacturers to make their printers able to somehow detect and stop the production of anything that could be used as a gun part is completely asinine and shows that those lawmakers have zero understanding of 3D printing, technology, and guns in general.

    How could software possibly be able to tell the difference between a curtain bracket I just custom made to replace one that broke and an auto firing device that could be made for one of the hundreds of thousands of different types of firearms available on the market that could take a nearly infinite number of different shapes that could resemble anything else and still work? It’s downright wishful thinking to believe this could be even remotely feasible.

    It would also be unbelievably intrusive, while completely ineffective and force all open source-based 3D printers, which is pretty much the majority of them, to become proprietary and locked-in. And given the fines, even if one slips through and is made in considerable quantity it would just put 3D printer manufacturers out of business.

    I can guarantee you that 3D printer manufacturers will simply refuse to do business in New York if they ever passed that.

    This makes just about much sense as ordering carmakers to make cars that never crash and fine them out of business if even one crash ever happens.

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    Sam Levy, the director of policy advocacy at Everytown for Gun Safety, told USA TODAY the capabilities of 3D printers now compared to a decade ago are “miles apart,” adding that there is a “much higher degree of lethality and reliability” with 3D printers today.

    Yet another example of how Everytown are FUCKING MORONS so bent on gun bans they’ll not only ignore but distort reality to suit their needs (nice way of saying lie through their teeth). It’s not that printers or even filament have gotten better, it’s that Cody Wilson’s liberator was never meant to be a real “assassins weapon,” it was meant to be a proof of concept and the choice of the Liberator as a design to copy was more symbolic of the freedom to be armed than “actually effective.” Then others started paying attention and designing actual working things, namely the Chairmanwon glocks, and Hoffman, and Ivan, that utilized the 3d printer to print the regulated parts then combine them with non-regulated metal parts, or home depot non-regulated pipes and shit. And then someone invented ECM rifling at home, no less!

    The printers didn’t get better, the designers did. And they’ll bypass this bullshit.

    Everytown for Gun Safety published survey data in January that found 74% of respondents supported requiring 3D printers to have blocking technology, while 16% opposed it.

    Yeah because they “polled” their “email list” that consists almost entirely of people “dumb enough to believe their statistics manipulation, and know nothing about 3d printers nor guns” I’m sure.

    Is Kathy Hochul also suggesting she has the authority to ban books, videos, diagrams, blueprints, instructions and lectures regarding the design and manufacture of firearms, even those that would be illegal to possess under state law?”

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    Yes. Yes she is.

    Shout-out to P. A. Luty.

    Levy said there’s “no question” that the regulation raises First Amendment issues but said the law’s proponents have “no desire to negatively impact or limit anyone’s free expression" or "ability to use these things in ways that don’t endanger public safety.”

    Oh so then the law doesn’t exist at all? Like it or not people do legally have the right to manufacture arms (be it restricted to “only for you no sale allowed” or not), this law attempts to arrest that right, it does “negatively impact or limit anyone’s free expression” and “ability to use these things in ways that don’t endanger public safety” both.

    "It’s a complex question, but we have one focus and one focus only, and that’s preventing people with dangerous histories, violent extremists from manufacturing untraceable, unserialized guns at home and totally undermining the laws of New York state, and that’s exactly what this bill’s going to achieve,” Levy said.

    Sure that sounds good, but in practice it still affects those who “use these things in ways that don’t endanger public safety.”

    If the group determines New York’s requirement is “not technologically feasible,” the law states, it will report its finding and “no regulations shall be required to be promulgated … until such time as the working group determines that it is technologically feasible.”

    OHHHH we’re just funneling money to a few of your friends who are in charge of this and will be paid millions of dollars for about 5yr until you admit that it’ll never be possible to actually make this work. Ok. Makes sense.

    The law also says the division will establish and maintain a “library of firearms blueprint files and illegal firearm blueprint files.”

    Me too dickhead, I’m seeding the torrents. Can’t Stop The Signal.

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      10 days ago

      Fucking morons. What are they gonna do next? Put a chip into stoves since they can be used to cast bullets?

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        Good luck, my backyard forge made from a charcoal grill and a leaf blower goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. “Oh where did this lyman casting equipment and Lee reloading press come from?! Oh and all this extra brass just ready to be deprimed, reprimed, powdered, pressed, and crimped? 5lb of powder stacked huh? Well, I’d hate to see it go to waste…”

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    If you had a machine that made those things in just a few seconds, that would be scary… let’s ban injection molding… because we’re smart now