Id like lemmings take on how they would actually reduce emissions on a level that actually makes a difference (assuming we can still stop it, which is likely false by now, but let’s ignore that)

I dont think its as simple as “tax billionaires out of existence and ban jets, airplanes, and cars” because thats not realistic.

Bonus points if you can think of any solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life.

I know yall will have fun with this!

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    solutions that dont disrupt the 99%'s way of life

    This is not possible. Barring some miracle technologies being developed, we would have to radically change our standards of living and give up our modern convenient lives to make meaningful changes.

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      Our standards of living should not include planned obsolescence where you gotta buy or exchange a new phone every year, stuff should be designed to last at least 10 years, if not longer…

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    I see an opportunity with rising electricity costs due to AI infrastructure building. People are getting angry about their high bills. If enough out solar panels on their houses and install batteries, we’ll be off the grid in short order.

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    Adopt. Don’t make new people. Take in people who have been abandoned. My father had the same idea in the 1970s — I suppose I should be fortunate my mother overruled him on that one. But he had the idea almost 50 years ago, for similar reasons.

    And apply a similar philosophy to the rest of your life. We all know the word recycle. And I have been a proponent of recycling for over 30 years. I’ve heard it doesn’t help. I’ve heard some municipalities take it all to the same place. I don’t care. I still do it. But I also remember when there were three words. The original slogan went “Reduce. Reuse. Recycle.” Many people forgot the first two. You can reuse and repurpose a lot of things. But you should also reduce consumption as well. Eat less processed food. Stick to protein — plant and animal (unless you’re a vegetarian/vegan obviously). Stick to the outside of the grocery store (produce, dairy, deli, meat). Bakery is nice for an occasional treat, but find out what they make in-house and not ship in frozen.

    I don’t think I’m doing enough on my own. I also don’t have illusions I’ll convince many others. I’m not really trying to. I’m not trying to save the world, just survive it.

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    In my opinion it is not possible to fight climate change while maintaining the same standards of life that we have now. Even if we are going to try, this will probably not be followed by many states with big population, so probably its not gonna work. From what I see, everyone is fighting climate change today by posting stuff on their social medias but when it comes to change habits, its another story.

    Anyway, my idea is that we don’t have to ban things like cars and airplanes but we can use them more efficiently. We can repair more and buy less. Do we really need to change a car after 100.000 km? In my country, If you live in a big city you can use public transport most of the time, so why we don’t start to connect well also the small places?

    Do we really need to buy fruits and vegetables that comes from other continents and needs to be chemically treated, transported, stocked and consequently generates pollution?

    In the consumer technology Sector people usually changes their computers and phones every 3-5 years even if the hardware is still working well. The software is usually becoming more heavier over the years without adding real features (See Meta’s apps). We must accept that this is not compatible with fighting climate change because we are producing too much waste that is avoidable together with massive exploitation of resources. The majority of users are not educated to understand how our technology works at its most basic level, I think that we may start from here.

    Maybe we cannot erase billionaires but we can stop adulating or hating them and giving them unnecessary notoriety.

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    You are asking two how to questions “combat climate change” and “reduce emissions”

    To realistically combat climate change:

    • Admit that we need to try geoengineering (we are already doing this with all the CO2 and CH4 going into the atmosphere)
    • Weather it is SO2 injection or cloud seeding to artificially increase the albido; we need to reduce incident solar radiation to give us a few more decades to actually reduce emissions

    To reduce emissions:

    • Tackle the biggest emissions first.
    • Electrification of the passenger fleet; that means batteries. Keep fuel cells for heavy transport (maybe)
    • Encourage electric biking. And other micro-mobility. Along with better public transport.
    • Normalise a historical style diet, meat is a treat only once or twice a week.
    • Reduce concrete construction; keep it for the important things like the foundations.
    • Reduce the practice of packaging everything in plastic; again keep it for the important things only like electrical insulation.
    • Massive ramp up of solar and wind around the world.
    • Where we use fossil fuels, ask is this important enough to use FF here?

    Carbon taxes:

    • Tax CO2e (carbon dioxide equivalent) at a reasonable rate to encourage all of the reduction measures.
    • At less than $65NZD/T the cost is too low to encourage significant movement on the issues.
    • Have a ratcheting scheme in the CO2 market, i.e. add $5-8/yr/T for CO2e; in 10 years the price will be between $110-140/T. At the 10yr mark, make the ratchet $10-15/yr/T.
    • Add a carbon tariff; basically make it more expensive to buy from countries that are not pulling their weight.
    • Be careful not to double tax, this is important for buy in from the public. i.e. the carbon tax on fuel should be exempt from sales tax, taxing a tax is a great way to alienate people.
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    Genuinely there needs to be a fee that companies must pay for the pollution they create, with it written into law that they can’t palm the cost off on their customers.

    We need to move shipping away from the ‘barely more refined than crude oil’ fuels they use

    We need to ensure protection of the oceans by making it so that outflowing waste from industry never reaches the watercourse in the first place.

    Single use plastics need to be removed from the supply chain (alternatively changed at the production level so they’re made from plant cellulose or a material that doesn’t break down into PFOAS or microplastics)

    We also need to block petrochemical companies from lobbying or interfering with politics, and prevent them from funding smear campaigns against renewable energy sources

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    But it’s time to disrupt 99% of life.

    Survey humanity, produce an agreed on level of technology and lifestyle.

    We probably need to limit ourselves to housing, food, internet, and safety/defense for everyone and not much else - then slow all industries based on HOW people want to live.

    So getting rid of things like, plastic toys, gizmos, extravagances. Phones wouldn’t be updated as often. People would only be able to update their tech if they could meaningfully show it was necessary.

    Lots of technology companies would be folded. Lots of industries would be nationalised and folded. International tourism would be greatly restricted. All the stuff we don’t need basically.

    People would be mostly employed in the basics: Housing, food, internet. Too far beyond that and you’d have to rely on local people/groups/makers/repair companies.

    So massive degrowth, nationalization, and restrictions/regulations to the market.

    Most of all, corporations would no longer count as people. In fact society should have to rely on person to person contracting. I don’t really think corporations should exist becuase they become Zombies/Golems that do a lot of destructive things.

    Basically degrowth, and restructuring society around degrowth.

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      This is the one post I’ve seen here that actually tackles the main problems. Climate change can’t be stopped without degrowth, which means putting a stop to capitalism.

      I’d like to add: while there would be a lot we’d have to give up, life under a degrowth economy would be good. Way better than what we have now. We’d all have more leisure time to focus on stuff that matters. Sure, we’d have fewer gadgets and toys, but we’d be able to spend more time with loved ones and engaging in creative and fulfilling hobbies.

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      I agree but you should emphasize the positives of degrowth otherwise everyone either gets scared or dismisses it as a non-serious solution politically. The main one being more leisure and less work.

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    Vote.

    Edit: to be clear, vote in every election you have access to. Local voting and primaries are just important. Voting even if you don’t like any of the options is still important.

    If you don’t vote then you’re part of the problem.

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      Depends on where you live.

      In some places, voting is extremely important and can affect things majorly.

      In some places, voting is completely useless because the voter has legitimately no power in a rigged system.

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        If a rigged vote gets 100 votes to person A and 0 votes for person B then you will think person B’s ideas aren’t valid.

        If a rigged vote gets 100 for person A and 35 for person B, well person B’s ideas shouldn’t be ignored. It also shows the 90 people that didn’t vote that maybe they should vote next time.