Every single youtube channel needs to start seeding torrents of their videos, and posting those links to other platforms (here, mastodon, etc).
Youtube / google could be defeated collectively if creators were to consistently do this, and interested people had the ability to help seed videos.
I’m just so tired of the algorhythms. It’s like being in a cage mentally.
I go to my son’s house, and start browsing through his streamers, and he’s got all kinds of stuff I never see. They keep me boxed into the algorithm they’ve assigned to me, and wont let me see anything else, so I keep picking from their choices for me, which only locks me harder into their box.
WDYM by “browsing through”? As in, you get different search results? Or a different start page with suggested videos?
Maybe I’m weird, but I never use that. Either I have a specific need (an instruction video, a specific song or video episode). Then I use the search. Or I want to see what’s new. Then I check the channels of creators I like.
If you use the platform like that (which is basically like Lemmy), it’s a lot harder to algorithmically lock you in. (I only use third-party clients like FreeTube and Newpipe though, which block most types of tracking and don’t require a Google account).
I mean the platforms suggestions for what their algorithm thinks you’ll like. My son’s suggestions look a lot different from mine. I’d like to see some of those kinds of suggestions on mine (mostly classic films), but I get lots of junk, so I end up watching junk, so it recommends more junk.
I want to get off this treadmill, and in to a different one.
You guys pay youtube?
I do. YouTube premium is cheap, i can add 5 other other people to my plan and they all the benefits, i get ad free music in my car (i cancelled XMradio because YouTube is better) and all my devices like my phone, car, smart tv, computer get ad free shows.
It’s a way better service than netflix because Netflix didn’t let be add people outside my house. And it’s way better than Amazon prime, because that chat extra flfor ad free but you still get ads!
I’ll support any company that gives me a cheap ad free plan that i can share with the family outside my house with no issues.
I’ve said this a few times in various places, but I’m really surprised we aren’t allowed to bid for ad space for ourselves to not show an ad the way advertisers do for ads. Obviously a flat monthly rate is simpler, nobody is denying that, but just from a purely “free market” perspective (which shareholders love to say they want while using the government to crush opposition) why can’t I pay slightly more than whatever small amount of money someone is paying to show me an ad to not see the ad?
Realistically I don’t think we’ll ever see that because it’s a fairly complicated. I don’t have any hard data, but I can’t imagine that the majority of users using something like YouTube Premium are getting a “good deal.” Sure, some folks probably watch all day every day and they get the better end of the deal, but I’d bet for a lot of folks YouTube makes more money off charging the subscription than they would showing the ads. Which is sort of an odd scenario we’ve gotten ourselves into (but amazing if you’re a company that serves ads).
Its a good idea but mentally people hate micro-transactions(transactions that are lower than 10cents) so they get mad every time its suggested. Plus its technically quite challenging to process those kind of transactions efficiently.
You wouldn’t prompt them every time. And it would be no more difficult than serving the ads which are also charging every time they’re shown.
No I wouldnt prompt them at all because the costs would be so low. Even if you paid 5x what an ad pays you’d spend less than a dollar or two a week. But people hate the idea of paying half a cent when visiting a website or watching a youtube video because they think they either shouldnt have to or that it will eventually become $2 to vist that blog and $4 to watch that video and thats a horrible future.
I feel like you’re not getting the vision. It would be the same process as subscribing, but money just gets drained from a pool per ad instead of a flat monthly fee. It’s not something you’re seeing a popup for. And it would never cost 5x what an ad costs. It would only ever cost $4 to watch a video without an ad if an advertiser was willing to spend $4 to show you an ad. To put that in perspective, ad impressions are bought in units of cpm which stands for cost per mille which is the amount they pay for one thousand impressions. That would be $4,000 cpm. That’s absolutely insane. That’s orders of magnitude more than what it is today. Nobody is ever going to spend that much to show you an ad unless it’s some crazy profitable, super targeted, ultra niche campaign.
The whole point of this thought exercise is to explore what companies make in a month from ads versus what they charge for a month of ad free service. People bid for your attention. I think I should be able to bid for it myself instead of paying some opaque, flat rate per month.
It would only ever cost $4 to watch a video without an ad if an advertiser was willing to spend $4 to show you an ad.
I know I only say 5x to show just how cheap it would actually be to outbid advertisers.
