• taiyang@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I see posts about a small percentage of MAGAts saying they made a terrible mistake and we say leopards ate their face; but somehow I don’t see likewise with “former” Zionists admitting their support for Israel was a bad idea or owning up to it.

    Either they still support genocide or they think they can wash their hands of their mistaken views just because Zionist Dems lost 2024 (which was like, 40% or higher!) and thus somehow are absolved of responsibility. I would like if at least someone would admit their views in 2024 were a result of propaganda and misguided.

  • Barbarian@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    I’m no fan of Kamala, but vague gesturing towards stopping nuclear armament (it even says in that picture “diplomatic solution still preferable”) is different from a full mask-off declaration that they’re going to commit warcrimes.

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      6 months ago

      Well have I got great news for you: Trump said he wouldn’t start any wars before the election and not bomb Iran at all!

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        6 months ago

        There’s a difference between known liar Trump, who contradicts himself from one sentence to the next, and Kamala, who is a bog-standard politician. This is just a hypothetical of course, but I think it’d be incredibly likely that Kamala would have continued economically suppressing Iran via sanctions, maybe some half-hearted attempts at another nuclear deal, but would have had advisors presenting what military aggression would mean for the region (including the economic damage of them blocking the strait) to prevent her from pushing this far. She’d likely be another Biden: not directly assisting Israel in aggression, but too cowardly to call them out in any meaningful way.

        Anyone with a functioning brain could see Trump was talking out of his ass on this topic, especially when project 2025 explicitly talks about waging a regime change war on Iran and assisting Israel in bombing Iran.

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          6 months ago

          There’s a difference between known liar Trump, who contradicts himself from one sentence to the next, and Kamala, who is a bog-standard politician.

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            6 months ago

            She’d likely be another Biden: not directly assisting Israel in aggression, but too cowardly to call them out in any meaningful way.

            Again, there’s a difference between complicity via silence, and complicity via an active bombing campaign. Neither is good by any stretch of the imagination, but the latter is clearly worse than the former.

  • JoeMontayna@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    You see, there’s this concept of time. And as time passes, variables change. It can explain a lot if you understand it.