• Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
    18·
    3 months ago

    One really frustrating part of all of this is they said we couldn’t raise minimum wage because “it’d increase prices.” Meanwhile, it’s perfectly fine to do this, because prices rising is actually fine now.

  • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    12·
    3 months ago

    The base doesn’t understand what tarrifs are but they 100% know that the orange turd is fighting for them.

    This is what happens when education takes a back seat and propaganda, identity politics, war profiteering, and geopolitical coercing takes hold to be the “greatest country of all time”.

    And they start to believe everything that matches their bias.

  • pelespirit@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    8·
    3 months ago

    Step 1: Create disaster (put tariffs on your allies)

    Step 2: Rabble, rabble, rabble while you dismantle the rest of the government and put people in concentrations camps.

    Step 3: Tell everyone you solved the disaster by making it a tiny bit less of a disaster.

    Step 4: Celebrate?

    • FrostyTheDoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      3 months ago

      I, for one, am ready to watch my fellow countrymen fall all over themselves to find a way to elect him a 3rd time while hating everything about their lives directly because of his policies. Can’t wait!

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        3 months ago

        Yeah there’s no good reason to restrict trade with the eu. They’re the most similar economy to us and we’ve found a reasonable balance. When we compete it’s often beneficial to both economies and where we don’t it’s in deeply intertwined ways. The sophisticated machinery you buy from the Netherlands may use parts from Chicago and be the best tool for making products in either Czechia or Alabama.

        Honestly Europe had more cause to tariff us over our lax regulations on labor, environmentalism, and consumer protection resulting in an unfair advantage.

  • Asafum@feddit.nlEnglish
    2·
    3 months ago

    “Ah ha! That’s how I know you don’t know what you’re talking about, you’re an ‘expert!’ and they don’t know anything! Checkmate!”

  • qaz@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1·
    3 months ago

    It wouldn’t surprise me if that was a bot account doing it for engagement.

  • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zipEnglish
    21·
    3 months ago

    I consider them both clowns. Who the fuck uses twitter anymore?

    Clown 1 was correct, but still, arguing on the shit pile is still just standing on the shit pile.

    • mean_bean279@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      3 months ago

      The tariffs only would have been higher because the same idiot that got the deal made the tariffs higher to begin with.

      The only sort of lucky part for us Americans is if it’s approved we got the better end of the deal, but ultimately we’re going to be paying higher prices for things we’re likely unable to produce. Although I get the feeling that Italian Marble and French Wines will suddenly be exempt from tariffs.

      • huppakee@feddit.nlEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        Although I get the feeling that Italian Marble and French Wines will suddenly be exempt from tariffs.

        But not before his buddies bought the right stocks.

      • RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        1·
        3 months ago

        I mean yeah but if Trump had set the tariffs at higher then that would’ve been worse than the current tariff deal.

        Zero tariffs would’ve been best or maintaining the tariffs that were there before. But still 15% is better than 30%.

        • mean_bean279@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          You go your whole life not getting punched in the face, then one day I punch you in the face and tell you I’m going to punch you in the face every day. Then I tell you unless you make a deal with me I’m going to punch you in the face and kick you in the balls. Now, getting kicked in the boys is not fun, but you should still be mad at me for punching you in the face in the first place.

  • Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
    04·
    3 months ago

    I understand where he’s coming from, but I personally disagree about us being worse off. It’s a usage tax. Buy domestic and don’t pay the tariffs. Frankly, there’s never been enough pressure on exporters to keep goods in the country of origin either, so the reciprocal tariffs will hopefully put some pressure there.

    • sobchak@programming.devEnglish
      2·
      3 months ago

      It’s a tax that proportionally taxes the poor more than the wealthy, and it’s not a coincidence that it’s happening the same time taxes on the rich are being lowered.

      Tariffs could make sense if we had a big manufacturing unemployment problem, but we currently do not. And targeted tariffs can help keep strategic industries in the country, but the 15% tariffs aren’t targeted. Some countries are just better at making certain things, whether it’s because of the resources they have, or the particular skills their workforce have, so trade, generally, makes sense.

      The stupid “trade imbalance” thing Trump goes on about doesn’t even take into account all the services US companies sell them (tech, financial, etc), and nothing is being done to stop US companies from offshoring these service jobs (some of these service jobs do have high unemployment and are being heavily offshored right now). Nevermind that trade imbalances means we’re receiving more stuff than we’re sending them, which is more beneficial to us.

      I dunno why you want to keep resources/goods in their country of origin. Only Central and South America can enjoy coffee I guess?

    • branch@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      3 months ago

      This assumes it can be produced domestic, and if it can, at the same price. Labour cost and all.

      • TallonMetroid@lemmy.worldEnglish
        0·
        3 months ago

        And also that the companies won’t just raise prices on domestic goods anyway because what are you gonna do about it? You either pay the inflated price for domestic, or pay the tariff.