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    Buying new is still screwing yourself over. Buy second hand and take advantage of all the fools thinking they have to upgrade every year.

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      Most used pixels are oem locked verizon ones. They say unlocked, but they only mean carrier unlocked.

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      The Fediverse is not perfect, but it actually blew my mind a bit how much it lowered my blood pressure to not see the constant ragebait, and the calm of not being exposed and monitored at all times. I still have Snapchat just for one person, and WhatsApp which is Meta but still E2EE. Other than that, I’m all in on FOSS privacy approved apps and man does it feel great.

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        It really goes to show no little of the abuse we suffer is inherently the Internet’s fault. Lemmy feels like the reddit I knew and loved of 15 years ago. Sure there’s some assholes I argue with but that’s the normal amount of shittieness not the turbocorpo abuse

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          A lot of it is hitting critical mass too. Reddit used to be tech enthusiasts and stem students the same way Fediverse is currently. Now any town idiot yahoo from the sticks will angrily yell at you on Reddit for no reason.

          But yeah the algorithm is a lot stronger than it would seem.

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            Some are trying though. Some one tried to be a smart ass saying that us lemmyngs where cool with piratage when it is for random people but not when it is for facebook so we should be ashamed. He got his ass handed by multiple people. Good time. Not even an insult was thrown <3 it was civilized, I love you guys.

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          When I first joined Reddit, it was so similar to Lemmy in its principles. Relatively progressive, open source, tons of interesting people having real convos about the nerdiest stuff and talking about the world. It was real, and the fediverse has absolutely nailed recreating that sense of community. What a beautiful safe haven we have

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        I made the switch to Linux and Lemmy right around the same time. Once I was free of it all it was like relaxing a muscle I didn’t know had been tense for decades. Android is next… Just as soon as I figure out jellyfin…

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          There is no verification that is true.

          But there is a nearly continuous stream of occurrences where Meta is caught lying.

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          It is actually verified e2ee. However, they do keep a ‘spare key’ for every single user and chat, you know, in case they need to help you, the good guys at Meta.

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              As far as I’m aware Moxie Marlinspike made the encryption before it was acquired by Facebook. One of the founders of WhatsApp now finances Marlinspike’d Signal messenger.

              In theory Meta only sees who you communicate with, but not what you communicate.

              (I wouldn’t be surprised if the bastards are trying to undo the encryption if they already haven’t.)

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          They have had some third party audits. It is not totally convincing to me as being trustworthy, but I see it as more of an acceptable necessary evil. Better than Discord, Snapchat, Facebook Messenger, probably even SMS. My wife’s whole family uses just WhatsApp, and so do some businesses even in her country. Believe me though, anyone I can get on Signal, Matrix, Session, etc, I do.

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        Why use WhatsApp instead of Signal? I don’t go near WhatsApp because of Meta, so I genuinely know very little about it.

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        E2EE but with a caveat that they can do on device detection of unencrypted messages and flag content back to mothership

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            The what’s app is encrypted to get to your phone so transmission is protected, however to view your message it is unencrypted (obvious) and at that stage WhatsApp will parse it for key stuff such as Child Sexual stuff, or other threats they have determined they look for, that then triggers a data send back to the mother ship. The problem with this is if the Government wants to silence a political opponent or journalist they can go to Meta and request a search other than CSAM. So end to end encryption via any META product is a joke

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      I just did this too, except I bought a refurbished Pixel, so I paid someone else $100 for Google to fuck off lol.

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      I hâte this reminder too. But the constant playsyore is missing permissions is a reward. Yes stay here little software keep complaining, your owner can go fuck them self.

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    I’m glad that GrapheneOS exist, and it’s sad that they are the exception and not the rule.

    I think projects like CalyxOS and LineageOS should adopt some feature from GrapheneOS like contact/storage scopes, sandboxed Google Play Services, Network and Sensor toggles.

    At the same time, I think GrapheneOS needs to reevaluate their presence in social media.

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    I still have my CAD $210 Google credit from Google because they throtted my Pixel, and I might let it expire because I want a Fairphone instead.

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    Not much longer im sure. I have no reason to believe that they will continue making it possible to un/relock the bootloader considering their push for google certified only android.

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      This is what I’m afraid of too. I could see apps like fdroid and the ability to install custom roms being taken away within the next year or two. I hope I’m wrong but I don’t have a good feeling. I need Linux phones to be a thing now more than ever.

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        Wdym by “you could see” as if its not whats already announced to be happening. Fdroid will not cooperate with googles app verification process which means Fdroid will stop working on all google certified devices, meaning everything other than devices with custom ROMs. NewPipe also announced they wont get google verified meaning it will stop working too.

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        I need Linux phones to be a thing now more than ever.

        This doesn’t happen in a vacuum. If you’re not already, find a project and contribute towards it some way.

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          I assume you either mean financially or in terms of general support and word of mouth. Trust me, I wish I could be a dev so, so badly, but as interesting as code and computers are, I’m light years away from getting in there and being able to fuck with shit. I love learning about programming, but I’m not the best at actually learning it. lmao

          I say, as I sit in a first level computer science class, typing this because I’m totally lost in the actual lecture.

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          I wish Ubuntu Touch wasn’t the main player because I dont want to give Canonical money 😭 Better than Google or Microsoft though.

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      Why, because you can’t afford it (reasonable), because you think it helps Google (unreasonable), because you think it’s a privacy risk (unreasonable), or because it feels icky (unreasonable)?

      The profits from Pixel hardware sales are a drop in the bucket for Google. I’m pretty sure the only reason it exists is so they can have insight and control over the hardware ecosystem, as without it they’d be driven by whatever Samsung wants to do.

      The walled Android ecosystem is where they make the bulk of their money, and Graphene actively pulls people away from that and to something objectively better. Graphene is fully de-Googled and safe from their spyware, and exists outside of their business model. Using and promoting Graphene actively hurts Google, even if you have them $1k for a phone.

      Also, there are plenty of cheap second hand pixels on ebay, and Google doesn’t see a penny from those sales. Recycling is good for the planet anyways.

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    I couldn’t do it myself. Ended up going Fairphone and Calyx instead. Just patiently waiting for Calyx to start releasing again.

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      I hope they’re not ending the project. They were pretty comfortably the best Graphene alternative but you’ll need security updates.

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        True. The OG GrapheneOS alternative was DivestOS, which actually pulled a lot of features from Graphene. Still so sad that project ended

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    Worth it. Try any Samsung phone with Google’s shit and Samsung’s shit on top: I swear you these one are practically unusable, like you carrying an bloated mini-ad-computer with you. A implanted bug in your teeth or ass would hurt probably less then this. Before I use any of those, I rather use a “dumb” phone again.

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      Soon, but not yet! I needed to upgrade, can’t wait until 2027 or whenever. But hoping it’ll be one of their flagships, the new Razr is pretty dope specs wise.

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    It’s why I made sure to get my newest phone used, but that comes with the risk of getting a Verizon model (in the US) which can’t be bootloader unlocked. Had to return the first one I got off eBay for that reason, and the second one I made sure to ask the seller where they initially got it from.

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        Nah, fuck them. They were no different from Google and Apple, and had monopolistic tendencies as well. If anything, Google is the lesser evil since Android is at least open source, whereas BB10 was as locked down as iOS.

        Blackberry also killed/sold off their hardware teams, so they have no capacity to make a comeback. All they have left is their nostalgia-loaded brand.

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          Idk it depends on your reasons for the comparison. I believe they had monopolistic tendencies (as do both Google and Apple, so does Nintendo regarding its hardware as well) but the last time I checked they weren’t nearly as focused on surveillance.

          I mostly just mean there is a market right now for physical keyboards. That is the extent of depth I intended with this comment. I’m not educated enough in hardware markets to speak on Blackberrys place in them or their ethics.