• BladeFederation@piefed.socialOP
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      The Fediverse is not perfect, but it actually blew my mind a bit how much it lowered my blood pressure to not see the constant ragebait, and the calm of not being exposed and monitored at all times. I still have Snapchat just for one person, and WhatsApp which is Meta but still E2EE. Other than that, I’m all in on FOSS privacy approved apps and man does it feel great.

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        It really goes to show no little of the abuse we suffer is inherently the Internet’s fault. Lemmy feels like the reddit I knew and loved of 15 years ago. Sure there’s some assholes I argue with but that’s the normal amount of shittieness not the turbocorpo abuse

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          A lot of it is hitting critical mass too. Reddit used to be tech enthusiasts and stem students the same way Fediverse is currently. Now any town idiot yahoo from the sticks will angrily yell at you on Reddit for no reason.

          But yeah the algorithm is a lot stronger than it would seem.

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            Some are trying though. Some one tried to be a smart ass saying that us lemmyngs where cool with piratage when it is for random people but not when it is for facebook so we should be ashamed. He got his ass handed by multiple people. Good time. Not even an insult was thrown <3 it was civilized, I love you guys.

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          When I first joined Reddit, it was so similar to Lemmy in its principles. Relatively progressive, open source, tons of interesting people having real convos about the nerdiest stuff and talking about the world. It was real, and the fediverse has absolutely nailed recreating that sense of community. What a beautiful safe haven we have

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        I made the switch to Linux and Lemmy right around the same time. Once I was free of it all it was like relaxing a muscle I didn’t know had been tense for decades. Android is next… Just as soon as I figure out jellyfin…

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          There is no verification that is true.

          But there is a nearly continuous stream of occurrences where Meta is caught lying.

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          It is actually verified e2ee. However, they do keep a ‘spare key’ for every single user and chat, you know, in case they need to help you, the good guys at Meta.

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              As far as I’m aware Moxie Marlinspike made the encryption before it was acquired by Facebook. One of the founders of WhatsApp now finances Marlinspike’d Signal messenger.

              In theory Meta only sees who you communicate with, but not what you communicate.

              (I wouldn’t be surprised if the bastards are trying to undo the encryption if they already haven’t.)

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          They have had some third party audits. It is not totally convincing to me as being trustworthy, but I see it as more of an acceptable necessary evil. Better than Discord, Snapchat, Facebook Messenger, probably even SMS. My wife’s whole family uses just WhatsApp, and so do some businesses even in her country. Believe me though, anyone I can get on Signal, Matrix, Session, etc, I do.

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        Why use WhatsApp instead of Signal? I don’t go near WhatsApp because of Meta, so I genuinely know very little about it.

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        E2EE but with a caveat that they can do on device detection of unencrypted messages and flag content back to mothership

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            The what’s app is encrypted to get to your phone so transmission is protected, however to view your message it is unencrypted (obvious) and at that stage WhatsApp will parse it for key stuff such as Child Sexual stuff, or other threats they have determined they look for, that then triggers a data send back to the mother ship. The problem with this is if the Government wants to silence a political opponent or journalist they can go to Meta and request a search other than CSAM. So end to end encryption via any META product is a joke

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      I just did this too, except I bought a refurbished Pixel, so I paid someone else $100 for Google to fuck off lol.