The problem was integrating the Nazis into classified programs. None of them, not a single one, even Einstein, should have had security clearance. You literally invited the opposition to infiltrate your ranks.
Not to say that Einstein wasn’t a boon to the US, but an alarming amount of ‘former’ Nazis got a free psss, and shit, look at America Third Reich today!?
Oh I agree I was just trying to provide a contrast angle, to emphasize the point. Of course there were good, but clearly too many leaked through, and while the blanket answer is ‘corrupt power strives for power,’ I believe in a more nuanced kind of way.
Obviously having Einstein was a boon, but what if he’d been the kinda shit we deal with today? White-Christian-nationalist Einstein sounds like a worst-case scenario.
Einstein and many other Jewish scientists famously fled Germany in droves to escape the Nazis. Seems a little gross to suggest that refugees will bring whatever tyrannies they’re fleeing from along with them…
I don’t think that Einstein was a Nazi, from the information I have seen. I think that seeing every German as “the opposition” is itself a pretty fascist position to take.
The true opposition is not people of different nationalities, it is people of a different class. That is, the “owners” who exploit the working class by claiming ownership of the fruits of their labor.
Sorry, maybe I misspoke/misinterpreted my point. As I was taught in grade 9-10, about 20y ago, (being American myself), post WW2 US was snatching up nazi scientists like pedophiles on a playground, instead of having proper screening.
As I understand it, the screening was minimal and vulnerable, and by that measure, it’s no surprise the US became the modern Nazi-Germany.
It’s true that there were a bunch of Nazi scientists that were welcomed into the US. I don’t think that that’s really to blame for the US’s fascist tendencies, though. The US has always had fascist tendencies. If anything the US welcoming Nazi scientists is a reflection of the way that the US already was, rather than something that corrupted the US.
The problem was integrating the Nazis into classified programs. None of them, not a single one, even Einstein, should have had security clearance. You literally invited the opposition to infiltrate your ranks.
Not to say that Einstein wasn’t a boon to the US, but an alarming amount of ‘former’ Nazis got a free psss, and shit, look at
AmericaThird Reich today!?Einstein was a socialist and very against the third reich. Don’t know where you got the idea that he was a nazi
He was just an example of how the US was scooping up German scientists like Einstein.
Learn your shit before you call others out.
Oh I agree I was just trying to provide a contrast angle, to emphasize the point. Of course there were good, but clearly too many leaked through, and while the blanket answer is ‘corrupt power strives for power,’ I believe in a more nuanced kind of way.
Obviously having Einstein was a boon, but what if he’d been the kinda shit we deal with today? White-Christian-nationalist Einstein sounds like a worst-case scenario.
We got off lucky and that’s putting it nicely.
Einstein and many other Jewish scientists famously fled Germany in droves to escape the Nazis. Seems a little gross to suggest that refugees will bring whatever tyrannies they’re fleeing from along with them…
I don’t think that Einstein was a Nazi, from the information I have seen. I think that seeing every German as “the opposition” is itself a pretty fascist position to take.
The true opposition is not people of different nationalities, it is people of a different class. That is, the “owners” who exploit the working class by claiming ownership of the fruits of their labor.
Sorry, maybe I misspoke/misinterpreted my point. As I was taught in grade 9-10, about 20y ago, (being American myself), post WW2 US was snatching up nazi scientists like pedophiles on a playground, instead of having proper screening.
As I understand it, the screening was minimal and vulnerable, and by that measure, it’s no surprise the US became the modern Nazi-Germany.
It’s true that there were a bunch of Nazi scientists that were welcomed into the US. I don’t think that that’s really to blame for the US’s fascist tendencies, though. The US has always had fascist tendencies. If anything the US welcoming Nazi scientists is a reflection of the way that the US already was, rather than something that corrupted the US.