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    Democratic governments should allow all voices to be heard, not silence speech they dislike.

    That’s real fucking rich coming from the government that:

    • Removed all references to “trans-” regardless of context.
    • Retaliates against left-leaning press.
    • Calls information they dislike “fake news”.
    • Sends immigrants to concentration camps.
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      Don’t forget

      removed funding for weather services or deleted materials related to climate change

      runs from people trying to ask them questions

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        If we’re adding “runs from people trying to ask them questions”, we should be more accurate about it.

        runs from people trying to ask them questions, calling them plants put there by political opponents

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      That because they don’t want free apeech. They want the speech only if its their speech.

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      I’m not even joking, I thought that whoever wrote this tweet was supporting the French investigation when I first read that.

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        They don’t want to be forced to listen to what YOU have to say, but they want to force YOU to listen to what they have to say.

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      EU is not much better.
      You have to be real careful with controversial subjects such as not liking genocide.
      And plenty countries have forbidden communism.
      Not to mention not honoring elections in Romania and anulling them, and not letting the winning party participate again.
      Even if it is a horrible right-wing party that won, that is still a mask off moment.

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      so what do they do with transport? Or foreign companies using trans in their name?

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    Of course the US will fight tooth and nail to keep its propaganda machines at work all around the globe.

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      Except that Trump is currently trying to dismantle Voice of America" and other propaganda machines around the globe.

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        It’s ok when he does it. There is no such thing as a Republican who is able to be shamed by hypocrisy. It’s their super power.

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            Oh I forgot the Blue MAGA mantra: “anything the opposition does is automatically bad”
            When they say water is wet you have to deny it.
            Really you all deserve Trump

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              Get over yourself. All I did was state a fact that was contradictory to the previous comment. I didn’t even say anything about whether it was good or bad. Trump is trying to cut VoA.

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          Wrong. It opposed Naziism and Soviet Union misinformation. Since then it’s been a standard journalism outlet that, by law, could not be dictated by US politicians.

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        VoA is competing with the private sector propaganda wing.

        This is just American Libertarianism taken to its logical conclusion. The mistake the Communists made was thinking Pravda didn’t need to turn an enormous profit.

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        While being the biggest pusher of propaganda in US history.

        And VOA was only “propaganda” when you consider objective information to be “propaganda”, like dumbfuck Trumpers do.

        Since 1976 the Charter and later the 1994 International Broadcasting Act legally forbid government officials from dictating content. Don’t worry about facts, though.

        Trump himself tried to make it a propaganda outlet, doing the exact opposite of what you credit him for. He put Michael Pack in charge who sidelined editors, froze visas for foreign reporters and scrapped long‑standing “fire‑wall” rules that protect editorial independence.

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    Translation help from Fascist English to US English:

    • “activist” = a non-politician whose free speech we don’t like
    • “allow all voices to be heard” / “free speech” = extremist/unconstitutional/propaganda speech which serves the interests of the current fascist regime must be allowed, while every other speech will be labelled as being activist/communist/un-American/…
    • “defend […] all Americans” = at least the part of Americans which we tolerate or haven’t jailed yet (subject to change)
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      His free speech was never infringed. He can say what he wants and not be prosecuted for it. Whether or not he has a job isn’t covered by the First Amendment.

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        Despite being an “entertainment” show, satirical media is still media, and covered by the First. These shows still rely on that protection against lawsuits, and have been exhonerated with the same defence, Cobert in particular. If you could prove government interference in this case, I’d say there was a pretty good basis for a court case based on freedom of the press, which is the corollary of free speech.

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          “Free speech” doesn’t entitle you to dictate policy over privately held companies. We spent four years trying to convince Trumpers of this. Be smarter.

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            What do you mean, did the Biden admin target any particular shows or networks? Are you also aware the current admin is holding off Paramount’s merger to exert influence over their programming? IDK how free that feels. May not be directly breaking laws, but it’s absolutely a subversion of free speech.

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              No, it’s not. Free speech protects what you say from the government, not your employer. Your employer ALSO has free speech, meaning they can decide what can and can’t be said on their property.

              This is like saying Sesame Street doesn’t show hardcore porn and that’s a violation of free speech.

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          Like axing a show that didn’t make money ?

          That a poor comparison since on x the moderations is about random citizen and not paid employee doing a work for a company that a the end of the day is free to choose how to spent her money

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            Like axing a show that didn’t make money ?

            Even if that were true, which it isn’t, what business does the president have even mentioning it much less making a demand?

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    Just block it in Europe already. Or give Musk daily-increasing fines so he has it turned off in the EU.

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      The Uk is never gonna block anything from the US let’s be honest, the EU might and maybe the rest of Europe, but the UK will not follow.

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      Just block it in Europe already.

      The Brazil Government did this for a week and immediately extracted big concessions from Elon. Really curious to see the EU so reluctant to employ a tried-and-true tactic… assuming you believe these governments are adversarial to American plutocrats.

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    EU just rolled over on trade with US. If anyone hopes for some actual fight against US and US corporations coming for Europe they will be disappointment.

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      Very disappointing indeed. Hoping to at least see continued work on digital independence, especially in governmental entities.

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      EU just rolled over on trade with US.

      Controlled Opposition. The plutocrats in Europe and the plutocrats in America have been working hand-in-glove for over a century. This is no different than the German government “rolling over” for IBM and Ford and Coca-Cola in the 1930s.

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    Martin: Organized crime?
    Cosmo: Hah. Don’t kid yourself. It’s not that organized.

    – Sneakers (1992)

    Twitter is absolutely going to say “well, we’re definitely not an organised hate group. Sometimes people just hate stuff. We’re just a social media platform, helping people organise. Oh shit”

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    Is this the same United States that’s investigating people for having unflattering memes of the vice president on their phone?

    Tell us more about the importance of free speech.

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      It’s the free speech where they cancel broadcasts they don’t like in exchange for approving corporate mergers.

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    As part of a criminal investigation, an activist American payment network is requesting to stop selling video games that they seem inappropriate and has basically treated itch.io, Steam, etc. as an “organized crime group.” Democratic governments should allow all games to be played, not silence things they dislike. The United States will defend the free prudence of all Americans against acts of foreign fun.

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    By condemning this, the “US” is shooting itself in the foot.

    Ever since Twitter owner used Twitter to say Canada “wasn’t a real country”, no Canadian should be using Twitter. That wasn’t just bias, it was an “in your face and screw you” kind of bias.

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    You have to believe that the French government have evaluated in the same week the risk of recognising Palestine and condemning a US company against how vindictive the US government are right now. Hopefully they stick to their guns on both.

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      Seriously. They should do the rest of the world a favour and close itself off from us. That way we won’t dictate what their idiots can and can’t do or say.