“Al Sarkha” or “the collective outcry” from Ansar Allah was modeled after revolutionary Iran and adopted in 2003, right after POTUS Bush Junior’s invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the Palestinian second intifada. The line “Curse upon the the Jews” has drawn ire from international audiences for being antisemitic.
It is not antisemitic because antisemitism no longer exists as a form of systemic oppression. Judaism has been subsumed by the white supremacist settler class system as Christianity has been. Jews are not a race nor are they an ethnicity and to say so is to directly support Israel’s myth of existence which is predicated on the revisionist history of Judaism as well as the centrality of the European Jewish experience above all others.
To do politeness finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide at the hands of Jewish settlers, US imperialists and gulf compradors is an insult to their intelligence and to their humanity.
Incredible how we are on a thread detailing the murder of an innocent baby girl with her grandfather and all you can think about is how a Jewish person’s feelings might be hurt.
When Jewish supremacists are doing a Jewish supremacist apartheid with the goal of creating a Jewish ethnostate that dehumanizes, displaces, and destroys countless Indigenous cultures with the ultimate aim of genocide, then somehow the victims of that colonial monstrosity are expressing bigotry by cursing their Jewish oppressors.
As if the history of European anti-Semitism is now the sin of the Ummah, and they must atone for the crimes of white colonizers. Projection of guilt through and through.
Complete lack of understanding racism as systemic, too. As though the oppressor is being reverse-oppressed through prejudiced language by the oppressed, a thing they will performatively claim to understand does not exist when people of colour insult white people. (Or queers curse straights, or women curse men, or the Irish curse Brits)
When the structures of power create hierarchies of livable lives and grievable deaths, those who exercise that power, who operate with the privilege of being seen fully as human, as subjects in history, can reify that power through oppressive language.
When those who are deemed objects in history, dehumanized by the structures of power, use their language, it cannot by definition be oppressive, as they, by definition, do not have the power to oppress. These categories are not essential and immutable–the oppressor can become the oppressed, the oppressed can become the oppressor.
But by no metric can anyone watching the current state of the world claim in good faith that the Jewish supremacist, genocidal ethnostate is by any means the victim of oppression. Outrageous.
by no metric can anyone watching the current state of the world claim in good faith that the Jewish supremacist, genocidal ethnostate is by any means the victim of oppression. Outrageous.
Yeah, that’s exactly what I said, that Israel is a victim. I’m really glad you’re trying to deal with this in good faith.
None of what i said was in reply to you, but sure, let’s talk about good faith. You presumably read through six paragraphs of my thoughts on how the oppressed cannot use language as a tool of oppression (more, actually, since you also read my replies to, again, someone who isn’t you, merely to ignore what i said and call me hostile and accuse me of playing the victim, a classic bigoted trope mind you), and the only thing you had to say about it was that you’re not calling the Zionist entity victims, not engaging at all with the content of my discussion. The content of my discussion, by the way, being that whether or not you personally consider the Zionist entity to be victims, by equating the language of the oppressed to the systemic racism of the white settler anti-Semites, you are, whether intentionally or not, equating the struggle of the oppressed to the struggle of the oppressor. You are misunderstanding what oppressive language is, and foisting the burden of the guilt of European anti-Semitism on people in an existential struggle against Jewish supremacists.
Language, like all social structures, is built on systems of power. Not all language is equal. Universalizing discourse is itself a colonial endeavour that silences the marginalized in favour of the narrative of the hegemony.
If you have real thoughts about this you could certainly express them, but defensively rejecting an accusation I never made toward you is very productive and good faith.
It is not antisemitic because antisemitism no longer exists as a form of systemic oppression
This is a crass generalization made to just to play with words to make excuses.
Jews are not a race
Obviously
nor are they an ethnicity
Ridiculous. They are a group of ethnicities, and while some ancestrally Jewish populations are so assimilated into other groups that they really aren’t a distinct ethnicity anymore, that’s not true universally even in America (where generally they are extremely assimilated).
To do politeness finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide at the hands of Jewish settlers, US imperialists and gulf compradors is an insult to their intelligence and to their humanity.
I’m not saying shit about them, let alone to them, I’m talking about this website.
and all you can think about is how a Jewish person’s feelings might be hurt.
If you enjoy playing mind-reader, that’s fine, but don’t rope me into your fantasy roleplay.
“Al Sarkha” or “the collective outcry” from Ansar Allah was modeled after revolutionary Iran and adopted in 2003, right after POTUS Bush Junior’s invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan as well as the Palestinian second intifada. The line “Curse upon the the Jews” has drawn ire from international audiences for being antisemitic.
It is not antisemitic because antisemitism no longer exists as a form of systemic oppression. Judaism has been subsumed by the white supremacist settler class system as Christianity has been. Jews are not a race nor are they an ethnicity and to say so is to directly support Israel’s myth of existence which is predicated on the revisionist history of Judaism as well as the centrality of the European Jewish experience above all others.
To do politeness finger wagging to a people who have suffered genocide at the hands of Jewish settlers, US imperialists and gulf compradors is an insult to their intelligence and to their humanity.
Incredible how we are on a thread detailing the murder of an innocent baby girl with her grandfather and all you can think about is how a Jewish person’s feelings might be hurt.
When Jewish supremacists are doing a Jewish supremacist apartheid with the goal of creating a Jewish ethnostate that dehumanizes, displaces, and destroys countless Indigenous cultures with the ultimate aim of genocide, then somehow the victims of that colonial monstrosity are expressing bigotry by cursing their Jewish oppressors.
As if the history of European anti-Semitism is now the sin of the Ummah, and they must atone for the crimes of white colonizers. Projection of guilt through and through.
Complete lack of understanding racism as systemic, too. As though the oppressor is being reverse-oppressed through prejudiced language by the oppressed, a thing they will performatively claim to understand does not exist when people of colour insult white people. (Or queers curse straights, or women curse men, or the Irish curse Brits)
When the structures of power create hierarchies of livable lives and grievable deaths, those who exercise that power, who operate with the privilege of being seen fully as human, as subjects in history, can reify that power through oppressive language.
When those who are deemed objects in history, dehumanized by the structures of power, use their language, it cannot by definition be oppressive, as they, by definition, do not have the power to oppress. These categories are not essential and immutable–the oppressor can become the oppressed, the oppressed can become the oppressor.
But by no metric can anyone watching the current state of the world claim in good faith that the Jewish supremacist, genocidal ethnostate is by any means the victim of oppression. Outrageous.
Yeah, that’s exactly what I said, that Israel is a victim. I’m really glad you’re trying to deal with this in good faith.
None of what i said was in reply to you, but sure, let’s talk about good faith. You presumably read through six paragraphs of my thoughts on how the oppressed cannot use language as a tool of oppression (more, actually, since you also read my replies to, again, someone who isn’t you, merely to ignore what i said and call me hostile and accuse me of playing the victim, a classic bigoted trope mind you), and the only thing you had to say about it was that you’re not calling the Zionist entity victims, not engaging at all with the content of my discussion. The content of my discussion, by the way, being that whether or not you personally consider the Zionist entity to be victims, by equating the language of the oppressed to the systemic racism of the white settler anti-Semites, you are, whether intentionally or not, equating the struggle of the oppressed to the struggle of the oppressor. You are misunderstanding what oppressive language is, and foisting the burden of the guilt of European anti-Semitism on people in an existential struggle against Jewish supremacists.
Language, like all social structures, is built on systems of power. Not all language is equal. Universalizing discourse is itself a colonial endeavour that silences the marginalized in favour of the narrative of the hegemony.
If you have real thoughts about this you could certainly express them, but defensively rejecting an accusation I never made toward you is very productive and good faith.
This is a crass generalization made to just to play with words to make excuses.
Obviously
Ridiculous. They are a group of ethnicities, and while some ancestrally Jewish populations are so assimilated into other groups that they really aren’t a distinct ethnicity anymore, that’s not true universally even in America (where generally they are extremely assimilated).
I’m not saying shit about them, let alone to them, I’m talking about this website.
If you enjoy playing mind-reader, that’s fine, but don’t rope me into your fantasy roleplay.